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              <h2>Update August 2022</h2>

<h3>Welcome to Citizen Wang Studio Blogs<h3>

<p>2021 saw a move into NFTs Non Fungible Tokens. This is a volatile and new market which sells artwork for crazy prices. </p>
<p>Membership costs as little as 39.00 pounds (to pay for the Gas Fees)  but the incredible riches posited make fame and wealth a possibility for even the poorest and most humble Artist. </p>
<p>At the moment sale prices are affected mostly by Bit Coin speculators who fancy a quick buck and the occasional multi billionaire who fancies a new Avatar for his Twitter account. </p>
<p>So called Art Experts have proclaimed NFTs as the revolutionary democratisation of the Contemporary Art Market no hype, no trudging round galleries, no schmoozing at Private Views. </p>
<p>This is the perfect investment opportunity for the discerning Art Collector who does not need the advice of critics and auction houses when buying Art direct from the Artist.</p>

<p>A new blog has arrived at Citizen Wangs by way of Naomi Elfred-Ross.com.  Naomi is a trained Artist as well as former Psychiatric Nurse for Teenagers in Bloomsbury London. Naomi posts a blog about Art - Artists Wages - Anxiety - Depression and Eating Disorders.</p>
<p>Her blog has outstripped Irish LGBTQIA  News by Kathryn Johnston (see below).  My response has been to commission regular articles by Naomi, as of yesterday.</p>

<p>Irish LGBTQIA News blogs by Kathryn Johnston.  Kathryn is a veteran freelance research journalist living in Belfast, Northern Ireland. When there is downtime she reports on LGBTQIA events and developments in Ireland. </p>
<p>This was in response to the homophobic tradition in Ireland.</p>

<p>For a website built on Portraits of Drag Kings, trying to dispel homophobia in Ireland with LGBTQIA news and photos seemed a decision that had to be made.</p>

<p>Al Dente is the pen name for a mixed race Drag King living in Yorkshire.</p>

<p>Al Dente has a lot to say for himself and writes about BAME representation in public life and has even more to say about the Labour Party Leadership.</p>
<p>Al Dente today had his pet dog badly savaged by an out of control dog in the park while they were out for a walk.</p>
<p>The Labour Leadership article is delayed but rest assured that this Blog will snowball into a landslide demanding the resignation of Starmer and the election of Emily Thornberry as Labour Leader.</p>

<p>Be Prepared: You may have noticed Screenprint and Photoshop versions of my photographs in the Portfolio section here. </p>
<p>These have been commissioned from Naomi Elfred-Ross and my longtime collaborator Alexander Fodor.</p>
<p>With a back catalogue of over 400,000 unpublished photos, I have decided to take a back seat from my snapping and let Naomi and Alex re-process some of the 400,000.</p>

<p>Hello everybody!! My name is Bruce Wang and I have been taking photos for over 50 years.</p>
<p>In this blog I will start off with a very brief run through of the years 2017 to 2020. 2017 was my first ever Exhibition "Eye of the Beholder".</p>
<p>2019 was my second Exhibition "About Face". 2020 saw the publication of <a title="Kings of Drag books 1-5" href="https://dragkings.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Kings of Drag books 1-5</a>. To give you some idea of what I will be including in future blogs:-</p>
<p>I will be talking about my long series of self portraits which are on my Timeline on Facebook which were inspired by the self portraits of Rembrandt and Lucien Freud. Some people might find interest in the relationship I have with the people I photograph, all of whom are by invitation only. In retrospect my life's work has been about how people inhabit the skin they live and how they use the space their bodies inhabit.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>In the past I have had pleasure and and financial gain from building spaces and furniture for paying customers who became friends in the process. I have studied Fine Art, Carpentry, Architecture and Furniture Design. During a troubled youth I underwent Laingian Psychotherapy.</p>
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<p>If you look at my Resume you will see a gap, 1990-2017...I was busy working on a total of 15 screenplays which never saw the light of day and I was getting a lot of Acting work, first as an Extra but later graduating to Supporting Artist with dialogue, not to mention a few starring roles in numerous commercials.</p>
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              <p>With Lockdown and being self employed, getting out of bed in the morning and telling myself, "I am a Creative Artist , an Art Photographer who used to street photography and odd angles. But now I specialise in photographing people who are out of the normal run of life, who have created and reinvented themselves". With no one to interact with and no models to shoot. I turn to my collection of Art Books, books by Avedon, Duffy, Auerbach , Krasner, Basquiat, Bomberg and Schiele. There's plenty more, bought at a time when I had almost as much money as sense. It's amazing really, I try to wade through books by John Berger and Susan Sontag, and here I am living through those books again just by studying my models' expressions, the lighting and then looking at Fine Art books for ideas.</p>
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              <p>A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS A good picture is certainly worth a thousand words. I spent 15 years writing 15 terrible screenplays which were never seen except by a small group of close friends, The screenplays were awful. I had a picture in my mind as I was writing them, this might have worked for those more gifted in the art of scriptwriting but not for me. In retrospect, I was trying to expose a narrative through words and description. With Photography all I needed to do was choose the right model and tell them what was expected of them and ask them to improvise emotions that they themselves had felt.</p>
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              <p>I strongly remember poring over the Sunday Times Pictorial Magazines in my mid teens. This&nbsp; was 1966-1970. Every weekend there would be beautiful young models photographed by David Bailey, and in the centre of the magazine there would be haunting pictures from the Viet Nam war by Don McCullen. This was Sex and Violence every Sunday in B&amp;W and Colour pictures.&nbsp; I would just look and look at the pictures and wonder how did these two humans get such pictures. The Bailey fashion shoots were just amazing, the models were happy and friendly looking but definitely beyond the scope of teenagers like myself and the vast majority of the male readership. The McCullen Viet Nam pictures were equally superlative, there&rsquo;s something about young soldiers in uniform that is very photogenic&mdash;like a&nbsp; playground game of Cowboys and Indians but with real blood and bullets. I would just stare in awe at these pictures and on Sunday night, when the rest of the family had finished reading, I would tear out the pictures and sellotape them to the walls of my bedroom.&nbsp; I had just been given a camera by my father that Christmas&hellip;this was the start of my journey.</p>
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              <p>Happiness is a sharp sword With ne'er a cross word. With the constant threat of meeting Death, When the cutting and slashing starts: Limbs and torso just come apart. I really regretnot taking my camera to my Aikido classes 40 years ago. The bleached white judo suits and the blue/black of the Hakamas. The Afterlife must be something like this.</p>
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              The Magnificent 7&nbsp; was released in Hong Kong in 1960, the whole family went to see the show. I was about 7 years old and still remember the experience even though I haven&rsquo;t seen the show again in the 60 years between then and now. At 7 years I wasn&rsquo;t yet educated in the conventions of story telling and exposition. As soon as the title music came on I was enthralled and completely uplifted. I actually somehow began to think that this film was a documentary. I was heartbroken when the James Coburn character got killed and nearly wept as the Robert Vaughn character&nbsp; got hit.

I don&rsquo;t know why I added this blog, sad old me, recently I have been getting flashbacks to scenes from the Magnificent 7 especially when James Coburn&rsquo;s character gets mortally wounded and he throws his final knife into a log and it sticks. And also when Charles Bronson is training the villager to shoot a rifle but gives up and tells him to use it like an axe. The triumph of good over evil, young love,&nbsp; &nbsp;heroic deaths , it&rsquo;s all there. Why have I written an entire blog about this ? It&rsquo;s just one of those formative sequences in my life like going to see West Side Story&mdash;but that&rsquo;s another blog.

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              <p><span style="color: #050505; font-family: 'Segoe UI Historic', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space: pre-wrap; background-color: #e4e6eb;">That Chinese are inscrutable is a myth that is only now beginning to die. Why is this prejudice dying? Because more and more Chinese actors are winning significant roles on the Stage, TV and Film. For the last year and more I have taken the great Master Rembrandt as inspiration and photographed myself at differing times of day and with varying lengths of hair. Chinese waiters and waitresses are inscrutable because of the stress and antisocial conditions that they have to work in--little is known about their facial expressions and personalities when they finish work and go home. The whole point of taking selfies for a year is not just Narcissism but seeing the passage of time and the ageing process, Because I am the star of my own selfie I do act up and try to summarise all the feelings I have had that day. Going back to the Chinese waiters, the Caucasian person probably just can't see beyond the almond eyes and black hair. In fact taking multiple selfies elevates the portraits into Art and the viewer is forced to see the Chinaman in front of them as a work of Art and therefore unlikely to be inscrutable.</span></p>
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              <p>They say a picture is worth a thousand words, well, reproduced below is a song lyric which is worth a thousand films.  We've all seen stiff looking couples dining together in a restaurant and not saying a word to each other. That is the departure point for this wonderful moving song by Tony Bennett and Bill Evans.  I first heard the song in the 1980's and have played it almost every week since then.</p>

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<h2>The Two Lonely People</h2>

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Tony Bennett and Bill Evans</p>

<p>The two lonely people

Sit silently staring,

Their eyes looking coldly ahead,

The two lonely people

Once loved and were caring,

But now that's all over and dead.</p>

 

<p>They don't know what happened,

They can't think what happened,

They had something fine of their own,

But the two lonely people

Have turned into statues,

Yes, turned into statues of stone.</p>

 

<p>The world was their moon once,

A yellow balloon once,

It held all their hopes and their dreams,

But then time came and broke them,

Reality woke them,

The world's not so pretty it seems.</p>

 

<p>For love that once mattered,

Is old now and battered,

But must it be shattered in two ?

The two lonely people,

Would give all their life,

Yes, they'd give all their life if they knew.
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<p>the two lonely people

sit silently staring

Their eyes looking coldly ahead</p>
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<p>In retrospect this film is about inscrutability. There is no monologue and only casual dress so that social position or role is not shown. The keyboard soundtrack was devised by myself separately and after the film was made. I hope you see that the soundtrack and the minute changes in facial expressions can impart so much and with great subtlety.</p>
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              <p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';">This film was devised on the day of the shoot and was dependent on what costume the actor brought with her. The message is explained in the dialogue of the video. If Writers and Casting Directors persist in having Asian actors in subservient and demeaning roles they will only do themselves out of opportunities for better Drama.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></p>
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              <p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Gill Sans';"><strong>Stav B and Anka</strong></p>
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<p class="p3" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Gill Sans';">Anka and I have known each other for nearly a decade. We have been lovers for nearly five.<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p3" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Gill Sans';">Ever since she came into my life, she has been constant and loyal and visible, something that, in my perpetual isolation, solitude and privacy I got to understand, accept and welcome. Yes, I took my time, but with a combination of life, fate and circumstance; we got it together and decided to navigate the waves together in brutal honesty, the mutual respect for individuality, trust and deep love.<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p3" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Gill Sans';">We are different people, from different upbringings, habits, issues, stories and we celebrate that, but we are also equally stubborn, controlling perfectionists and hard workers, so I suppose it all balances out. These are the minds of artists (Anka&rsquo;s work is drawing and sculpture and mine, performance, film and sound); we are naturally speaking a different language to the rest of the world, everything is thought about and manifested in an amplified way. That does not mean we are above it all and not part of the world; on the contrary, we feed from the simple things in life, we have got our feet on the ground, we are alert and awake to everything; it&rsquo;s food for thought and development and creativity.</p>
<p class="p3" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Gill Sans';">Our styles are different too, but it works. We both love to dress up, it is like a project: I love wearing dead men&rsquo;s pants and dramatic jackets and Anka will follow the latest trend and manipulate it: it will never look like a track suit bottom.<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p3" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Gill Sans';">We are not perfect, this is not our goal. We bicker, scream and shout as well as laugh and cry. But we are a good team, grateful for everything we have. And we continue. S.B December 2020</p>
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<a href='https://web.facebook.com/events/680035372679273/'>JOIN EVENT</a>
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<p class="p5" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 18px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Why do I take photographs ?</p>
<p class="p5" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 18px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">What is so unique about a photograph ?</p>
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<p class="p5" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 18px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">I take photographs to record moments in daily life. The Art comes when choosing the subject, lighting the subject, and knowing when to snap.<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p class="p5" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 18px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Great painters of the past like Hogarth would have done a few hundred paintings , or at most a thousand paintings in their lifetime. With digital photography it is possible to shoot 500 or more pictures in a few hours at little or no cost. Quantity is obviously not quality.</p>
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<p class="p5" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 18px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">What I look for in a photograph is the context and the content. I love looking at movie stills. These are just millisecond moments from a 90 minute filmed narrative. To me they speak of action , drama/comedy beyond and before that moment.<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></p>
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              <p>WAITING FOR BARDOT, THE DOCUMENTARY. COMING TO YOUR SCREEN ON THE 31ST OF MAY 2021</p>
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<p>Born in 1962, the year her mother Marilyn Monroe died, Lizzy is the love child of Monroe and President Kennedy.&nbsp; Brought to England and raised in the Kent to avoid the Media, the CIA and the Mafia.</p>
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              Dear Bruce,

I agree, we certainly don't make art to make money. It's something that cannot and shouldn't be quantified. It's so personal and so important, as it reaches out and touches so many people, who then feel less alone. That is what your website will do.

I can't imagine your sitters would see you as a threat, you are far too warm and personable. I think it's the camera itself that can feel quite daunting, like it's not just looking at me, but sees into me. I think to really embrace sitting for a portrait is to open be self up to true vulnerability, which is precious. So many of us have so many guards up these days.

How do you feel when you meet a new sitter? What puts you at ease? What sets you on edge? You are also making yourself vulnerable after all. It's quite an intimate exchange isn't it.

I'm off to bed.

Sleep well.

Naomi xx

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<p style="color: #000000; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 18px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; margin: 0px;">Today started at 05.30. A cup of home made chicken soup and salami on toasted white sourdough bread. I wonder how fattening this all is at this ungodly hour. I&rsquo;m trying to lose a pound or half a kilo a week &mdash;it started well a few months when I cut sugar and wheat from my diet.</p>
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<p style="color: #000000; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 18px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; margin: 0px;">I turned on my second computer and found I had some contact sheet style photos which looked very good. I didn&rsquo;t bother to process them or put a watermark on them. I decided to put them on FaceBook with a high enough resolution&nbsp;&nbsp;that people could conceivably make A1 sized prints from them . That&rsquo;s ok, if they had watermarks and prices on them people would see them differently and not pay.As the old saying goes &ldquo;Art should be Free&rdquo;.</p>
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<p style="color: #000000; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 18px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; margin: 0px;">I&rsquo;ve worked on commercials which paid &pound;13k a day. After that &pound;45 to shlep around, find the matching photo, printing it and post it seems an annoyance. If my work sold for &pound;4-500 instead of &pound;45, I wonder what my attitude to my work and my customers would be</p>
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<div style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">I love the photo, you have a bit of rock star after too much sex drugs and rock n roll. Maybe a slightly defensive look, like that paranoid feeling one might have after a lengthy bender and not quite able to remember, but knowing things may have got a bit wild , at times. There&rsquo;s a look of despair there too. All the things I don&rsquo;t miss about alcohol and all other mind bending substances.</div>
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<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; color: #201f1e; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 18px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; background-color: #ffffff; margin: 0px;">If I lived by the sea, I'd study the ebb and flow of the tides.</p>
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              <h3>The Unedited Eye.</h3>
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I first met Bruce at an arts project in Haringey, where he had been enlisted as official photographer, to promote the social enterprise and I was running the art group and serving up flat whites.
&nbsp;
After a few publicity shots, en plein, with yours truly, Bruce invited me to his studio to sit to have my portrait taken. I had no idea what to expect and wondered what he had seen in me, that had sparked interest. I accepted the invitation, both flattered and curious.
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<p>Upon arriving at Bruce&rsquo;s Barnsbury flat, I was struck by walls lined with black and white portraits of an assortment of people. Then, bookcases, stacked with glossy exhibition catalogues and periodicals.
&nbsp;
When the moment came to have my picture taken, I froze. Suddenly, I felt extremely vulnerable and I feared the camera would capture this for all to see. We all have a self we wish to project to the world and that which we try to protect and hide. I wanted to go home, but managed to stay. In fact, I returned a number of times. So what is it that prompted my return? I think I was searching for something important, something I wanted to be seen.
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<p>When I look through Bruce&rsquo;s extensive journey through photographic portraiture, it strikes me that I am not alone in my searching. There is a wish to see and be seen. Some photographers and certainly the world of Instagram and Snapchat subscribe to the narcissistic desire of presenting an &lsquo;ideal&rsquo; self to the world, however Bruce&rsquo;s portraits are beautifully uncompromising and unedited; what we see is what is seen through the view finder. Of course, there is studio lighting and the option of props, but nothing that might hinder the intention to find true connection in a world of disconnect.
&nbsp;
Bruce&rsquo;s Outpost Gallery exhibitions of 2017/19 (&lsquo;Eye of the Beholder&rsquo; and &lsquo;About Face&rsquo;) display portraits of a diverse range of sitters. These are people he may have known personally, or may have sparked interest through connecting on social media. Bruce invites strangers to his home, immediately reaching out with a message of trust. He is most interested in individuals on the periphery of society, giving them a moment of limelight. Bruce&rsquo;s work is interested in the subtlety of changes in expression; taking multiple shots, hoping to capture that moment of vulnerability, when self consciousness is forgotten momentarily. These images are so detailed each pore and fine line can be observed.
&nbsp;
During this period of Bruce&rsquo;s work, I have seen him experimenting in all sorts of ways. It rather feels like a series of sketch books, giving valuable insight into the artist&rsquo;s process. Bruce is learning about himself, about what speaks to him and excites him the most.
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<p>The body of work that Bruce is, perhaps, best known for is Drag Kings. This extensive series emerged quite by accident, as is often the way. He was visited by a sitter, presenting themselves initially as the person the world sees each day. However, she then came alive, as the camera liberated her to take on her &lsquo;alter ego&rsquo; role, Dick Head.
&nbsp;
<a href='https://dragkings.org'>Kings of Drag books 1-5</a> lead one to consider identity and question whether it is the role we assume as acceptable to the world our true self or is it the one revealed to our closest friends or only ourselves? Or, is the costume and performance a place to hide and protect true vulnerability? Maybe all of this can be true; life is full of contradiction.
&nbsp;
What is apparent is that, as his sitters came alive and performed for the camera, without inhibition, Bruce&rsquo;s confidence in his art grew exponentially. He is clearly enjoying himself, as much as the sitters and this liberation brought with it a maturity to his technique. Lighting and composition enhance the drama, the introduction of colour celebrates the flamboyant costumes and the unflinching attention to detail, as the viewer is allowed to see the humanity beyond the performance. These sitters are not &lsquo;other&rsquo;, as society might have us believe; within the other, one cannot avoid seeing oneself.
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<p>As business as usual has been impossible, during the restrictions of the pandemic, Bruce&rsquo;s work has developed into a new phase. Unable to invite models to his home, Bruce has taken the bold step of turning the camera inwards. It is Bruce&rsquo;s moment to be seen. These photographs beautifully portray the subtlety of mood change, seen through facial expression and poise, which is captured in a split second. There is a sense of performing for the camera, as with the Kings of Drag. Possibly, this is an attempt to seek control over what is seen. My interest, however, lies more in the &lsquo;negative space&rsquo; or &lsquo;shadows&rsquo;; what Bruce is giving away of himself unknowingly, which he still permits us to see, as it remains unedited.
&nbsp;
In Bruce&rsquo;s face I recognise my own experience of these intensely strange times. I see a wish to reach out and touch, when this is otherwise not permitted. I see warmth, fragility, humour, fear and aloneness. I see hair grow, shadows emerge and disappear. For me, these are Bruce&rsquo;s most daring and startlingly honest images of his career thus far. Through sharing himself, in such a way, I am sure mine isn&rsquo;t the only life to have been touched.
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Naomi Elfred-Ross
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              Jada Love &amp; Romeo De La Cruz are individual performer as well as a married duo. They have 18 years of experience in Burlesque &amp; Cabaret UK &amp; beyond performing in well known &amp; rising events, festivals &amp; collaborations. Together this&nbsp;Mysterious...Mischievous. ..Majestic Duo infusing their dark sultry fetish vibes to bringing you something hypnotically different. Like a chameleon, things do change...you might experience a laugh or two if they give you a chance.

Jada Love is a mixed race womxn of English &amp; Jamaican decent. In 2021 she launched her 1st Solo produced show with raving &amp; impeccable reviews called &ldquo;EVOLADAJ&rdquo; - A hybrid visual &amp; audio experience. She is known as a Host, Singer, Neo Burlesque, Gorelesque Performer who delivers sexy, dark and mysterious vibes whilst injecting comedy, lip sync and cheeky charm into her acts. Seducing you with her sultry and hypnotising moves, she is always bringing something different to the stage. Watch out for this Chameleon and her ever changing colours of mischief.
Off stage she is beyond what you see with talents of songwriting, music production, videography, pole dance, custom made fx &amp; clothing - All self taught!

Romeo De La Cruz is a Trans Non-Binary Black Carribbean British, Windrush descendant. They are the&nbsp;Creator &amp; Curator of &ldquo;Through MelanEyes&rdquo;&nbsp;to focus, empower &amp; support our POC &amp; Indigenous LGBTQIA+ siblings within the art. As well as an&nbsp;Ambassador to BOiBOX &amp; American Apparel.&nbsp; They are known as Drag Kxng &amp; Boylesque performer - This energetic, enigmatic humxn whose scintillating performances mash-up their craft of Dance, Drag &amp; Boylesque to produce the twistxd concoction of their majestic fetish. Soft by nature but harden by society BUT if you're lucky you might just experience the comedic side of Mx Cruz.
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              <p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">It is my understanding, that the capitalist society, of which we are part of here in the UK, is dependent upon creating insecurities in people. This causes them to believe that they do not have enough, that they are not enough and can therefore never be content. We are compelled to keep striving for more, for better and the goalposts just keep moving. One such insecurity being self image; seeking to make two dimensional and superficial, something which is richly complex and multifaceted. The message we are given is that which matters most is what is on the outside; beauty is skin deep. There is an impetus to suppress individuality, as surely this would be a threat.<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Hundreds of thousands in hard earned cash is spent on lotions and potions that promise to hold back time and camouflage our many shameful imperfections. The dream is of an idealised youth, flawless, symmetrical and unspoiled. Ageing is equated with invisibility. The value given to the lives of the ageing population has been placed in stark focus, during this time of pandemic as lives lost are reduced to mere statistics and one might cynically wonder if they are seen as purely collateral damage.<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Somewhat ironically, in the real world, the so-called idealised youth are hidden in their bedrooms, sat before mirrors, deeply preoccupied by the demand to attain their place on the pedestal upon which they are unwilling captives. Selfie after selfie, is taken, then painstakingly edited, until what remains barely looks human, only then are these images deemed fit to share on social media. Regardless of how much money is spent, or how many pictures are taken, there is a sense of deep inadequacy and shame, often resulting in mental illness, due to a long forgotten sense of true self.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">Prior to the pandemic, I was a keen attendee of life drawing classes. Within the room, the silent concentration upon the human form was so intense, it was palpable. Such was the wish to truly see and depict, without objectifying, the other. It felt a true privilege to spend these few hours of, what felt to be, a desire for true connection. It is encouraging, therefore, that such classes have become so increasingly popular.<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">I was interested to notice that, for me, it was not the trim, toned, painstakingly perfect bodies that spoke to me, but those that told a story of a life lived; every lump, bump, crease and blemish, representative of true humanity. This was something I felt I could relate to and somehow left me feeling less alone. It felt important , as an artist, to share this valuable experience of what is truly beautiful, who we really are; literally stripped bare.<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">In Bruce&rsquo;s most recent project; &lsquo;The Art of Ageing&rsquo;, that same truth is shared about where true beauty is found. For it seems, perhaps, that as we age, the inner experience is worn more honestly, upon the surface, for others to see. If allowed, this is a gift that encourages us to reorganise our values, to look beyond the mirror and into the eyes of another, who has wisdom to share and a story to tell.<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">The camera sees all, through repeated exposures, capturing each precious moment that passes. Tracking the depth of contrast deepening, as the sun sets and fades. There is an air of self consciousness, as Bruce seeks to present himself as he hopes to be seen, while surrendering to the knowledge that he cannot hide and possibly no longer wishes to; a realisation dawning that he is comfortable with himself; in himself. His generosity is his preparedness to be seen as reassuringly imperfect; for this is the negative space where true beauty resides.<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">The sitters of &lsquo;Drag Kings&rsquo; seek also to show something of their inner world; one that society has felt threatened by and sought to repress. This is achieved through highly individual and carefully chosen costume, props and lashings of theatrical make up. This is dressing up with an entirely different agenda; it is a reaction against our selfie obsessed culture, as conversations are raised here about the multiplicity of identity. There is no singular self, which can be pigeonholed, categorised and given validity (or not), but a rich tapestry of contradictions, which can sometimes be grotesque,<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; </span>while at other times, radiant. There is a refreshing integrity, therefore, to these images, which may be a performance, but this time a performance without pretence. These are, perhaps, more about performing to enunciate and not eradicate the self.<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></p>
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              <p>How come there are so few Drag Kings, some ask. Well, there are not "so few". What happens is that they are not very visible.</p>
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<p>Drag Kings are people who have decided to show us how masculinity can also be an object of attention. To give shape to the idea that we have of the masculinity that governs us, to explore the man within us, to put into play roles that are forbidden to us by our identity... Empowering us by playing at pretending to be something we are not for the pleasure of trying the "if we were".</p>
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<p>The Drag King workshops emerged in the 1980s within the feminist movement as a space of exploration for women to decipher the codes of hegemonic masculinity and question the power that was (and is) implicit in them. Thus, the Drag King has had a transformative political potential since its inception. Because it does not only emerge to question and reinterpret the masculine in a society where binarism is untouchable. It also makes feminine masculinity visible and empowering.</p>
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<p>Not all people who perform the masculine gender are female. There are all genders. There are those who identify themselves as men and want to explore a type of masculinity that is not their own. Photographer Bruce Wang's work illustrating this post gives visibility to the diversity of London's Drag Kings over the last few years. Their artistic expression has evolved to what we can see today, but the political is still present. The low visibility is, in a way, a good sign of this. The uncomfortable is annoying.</p>
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<p>Wang publishes his portraits in a series of books, "Kings of Drag", in which we can see his homage to this diversity. Each photograph is a celebration of the empowerment that comes from daring to play with the masculine and using that power to continue building our own identities.</p><br/>
Further Reading Artefact Magazine
<a href='https://www.artefactmagazine.com/2019/10/23/masculinity-doesnt-belong-to-men/'>Beau Jangles</a>
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              <p><span style="color: #ffffff; font-family: system-ui, -apple-system, system-ui, '.SFNSText-Regular', sans-serif; font-size: 15px; white-space: pre-wrap; background-color: #0084ff;">Spinach Kebab and Red Braces a Film by Bruce Wang, starring Alexander Fodor. World Premier in about a week on Face Book. If there&rsquo;s two things in my life which I sincerely regret, they are an obsession with Anarchism and taking LSD when at University. The Anarchism which most people have heard of was the Spanish Civil War anarchists who were a hopeless and romantic bunch. It&rsquo;s only recently that I heard they burned down churches and raped nuns. But there&rsquo;s also modern day anarchists (the 1970&rsquo;s fashion for communes within squatted houses) that I chose to be involved with from 1973&mdash;1979. There were a few nice people but the majority were just scumbags. I was born in 1953 and &rsquo;73-&rsquo;79 would have been my Angry Young Man phase. It was precisely these years that Rik Mayall (born 1958) and Adrian Edmondson (born 1957) were referring to in their sitcom The Young Ones. Repeats of The Young Ones have shown them to be a bit dated although I tuned in every week in the 80&rsquo;s and found them hilarious. Plus ca change, plus la meme chose. And now in 2021, I find myself living solo in a Housing Association flat paid for by Housing Benefit, making films and taking photographs. All I am saying is that the anarchic storyline of Spinach Kebab and Red Braces is the amalgamation of The Young Ones and Chien Andalou. From the dissonance and occasionally lyrical notes of the soundtrack, to the casting of a middle aged man in red braces, red underpants and odd socks, to a storyline which can only be surmised from repeated viewing. I have watched Spinach Kebab and Red Braces more than 15x and have found great amusement and a story that has to be told.</span></p>
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              <p>A meeting with Sam Mendes It was a casting at Pinewood Studios for a part in the James Bond film Skyfall. 
A 3 hour wait in the company of 3 pretty boy actors who were comparing roles a year after Drama School Graduation. 
Finally it was my turn to meet with the great Sam Mendes who would win Oscars with the eventual Skyfall film. 
Maybe he had had enough with the three pretty boys that he cut straight to the chase with me. What was my favourite role?
He asked and I babbled on about a no budget movie where I actually had some dialogue. What was my most memorable film?. 
I said Out for a Kill with Steven Seagal, where I had a 1-2-1 fight scene with Seagal. Everybody has had a fight scene with Steven Seagal. 
Mendes said, and I knew I wouldn't be included in the Skyfall cast. On the set of Bridget Jones' Baby I had a non speaking part but I was paid the full rate for the day's filming. 
</p><p>I was the speechless with rage General Lu Tong in the News studio interview scene where they mistakenly interview my Chauffeur. I was on screen for about 5 seconds and was paid handsomely. 
Renee Zellwegger greeted me personally saying Hi Bruce, I'm Renee. I first noticed Ms Zellwegger in Nurse Betty many, many years ago and knew that she would go far. 
I never thought we would ever shake hands. With Steven Seagal in Sofia, Bulgaria. My first speaking role in a movie and a 1-2-1 fight scene with the star of the show too. 
Mr Seagal is a huge man and immensely strong in Aikido technique and brute strength. Somehow after he had my arm in a hold and then released me, 
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              <h4>The Sean Mac Loud interview </h4>

<p>Sean Mac Loud Interviewing Bruce Wang </p>

<p>SM So tell me about how your photography sessions work</p>

<p>BW At the risk of sounding pretentious, I just want my subjects to be spirited and spiritual.</p>

<p>SM In what way?</p>

<p>BW In the way they come over in the printed shot </p>

<p>SM So to show their inner side?</p>

<p>BW Yes. To some photographers that's anathema.</p>


<p>SM Do you tend to get a grasp of this side of them before you take the photos and do you change the way you take them to accommodate this?</p>

<p>BW Subconsciously and automatically. this could be the first paragraph of the interview.</p>


<p>SM So lets assume that you do this, and perceive them correctly - how does that change the way you create the set up in the studio? would you, for instance change the lighting to reflect someone that you think is either darker or lighter in nature?</p>

<p>BW The setup is very small and rarely changes. I just do my best to inject some atmosphere but sometimes they are so uptight I want to ask them why they bothered to turn up.</p>


<p>SM I have noticed that your subjects are very diverse in nature and not what most would consider mainstream - the Trans community and so on. They seem at ease when you take the photos - possibly they are defensive and wonder if this could be a set up to mock them? How do you convince them that you are "on their side" and to come and be photographed?</p>

<p>BW Im very polite and considerate and I take hundreds of shots.</p>

<p>SM But what do you actually say to them? There's obviously that terror of being invited into a stranger's van type scenario?</p>

<p>BW I know. after a while i became quite well known as being an elderly gentleman and therefore harmless.</p>

<p>SM So you were well known on a particular scene or in general?</p>

<p>BW On the scene. one event organiser said she would be "honoured" if I went and took photos..</p>



<p>SM So generally you're well known in your local area as such?</p>

<p>BW Yes.</p>


<p>SM So.. when they turn up, some are nervous - how do you go about setting up a scene? would it be ad hoc, or do you usually have a situation to put them into , or does it boil down to how comfortable the subject is? Would you allow them to create their own?</p>

<p>BW The Green Room and Hallways have pics of Drag Kings.  There was one very nervous one I invited back twice so that I could get some decent shots--it worked out in the end.</p>

<p>SM So let's go back to the early days..What made you get into photography? what inspired you and what was your first camera?</p>


<p>BW My first camera was a Kodak Brownie. I thought it was so delicate and precious. My brother said there were little people inside who made the shapes of what I pointed the camera at. In the end I opened the camera and unrolled the undeveloped film to see these little people. So delicate.</p>

<p>SM When the little people came out what did they look like? What was your family like - were they quite artistic?</p>

<p>BW Sometimes I got my sisters to pose in what I thought was comic poses.
my family were all artistic in their own way. My dad bought the latest gadgets including a Leica.</p>


<p>SM So was he the one that got you interested in cameras?</p>

<p>BW He took a lot of photos and cine film.</p>

<p>SM Did that inspire you and did he mentor you?</p>

<p>BW No it was my sister who actually studied photography as a first degree.</p>

<p>SM So explain how you got interested?</p>

<p>BW She taught me basic dark room techniques and she taught me when and what to cut out of photos. Brutal.</p>

<p>SM In what respect?</p>

<p>BW Anything that did not contribute to the sense or aesthetic of a photo was just chopped out.</p>



<p>SM So basically composition or focusing on the important things?</p>


<p>BW Yes, and she introduced me to the pictures of Cartier-Bresson, David Bailey, Bill Brandt and Don McCullen in 1965.</p>


<p>SM So they were very off-beat artists and probably well ahead of their time - they were more about the backwater places - the grungier underworlds - did that open your eyes a bit?</p>


<p>BW Yes absolutely and then I discovered the works of Ansel Adams and Edward Steichen in 1973.</p>

<p>SM So you must have been really young at this point in your life right? when did you get your first ever "proper" camera?</p>


<p>BW My first proper camera was a Miranda in 1973. It wasn't very well designed and the light meter switch kept flicking to "on" after it was put to bed. but it was in 1967 that I had a Ricoh.  I used to photograph boys who were feminine while I was at school.</p>

<p>SM You went into acting - why was that?</p>

<p>BW It was better paid and easier than carpentry.</p>

<p>SM So where did you do carpentry? So you left school and did carpentry?</p>

<p>BW I left school in 1968. 1969 Davies Laing and Dick. 1-2-1 tutors in Notting Hill Gate
1970-72 Leeds Polytechnic Business Studies HND -  72-73 an Accountancy apprenticeship </p>

<p>SM During this time were you still having an interest in photography?</p>

<p>BW I worked as studio assistant to Barry Flanagan, The sculptor he was rather famous in the 70' & 80's and he taught me how to see beauty in just a stone resting on wooden blocks.</p>

<p>SM As an actor did that work show you a bit more about how camera work was done? Did it give you any insights?</p>

<p>BW I've seen DoP's take a lot of trouble with lighting only for the final film to come out dirty and murky. It was Apple computer programs that helped me to realise my artistic potential.</p>

<p>SM  How?

<p>BW The ease of making videos and editing and processing photos and mixing the 2 together.</p>

<p>SM So when did you decide to take the plunge and become a "proper" photographer? and how did you go about it? was it quite expensive?</p>

<p>BW My Sony A7R3 cost about 5k the lenses cost 3k I thought I better find out how a DSLR works. I still don't know what all the dials and programs are for !</p>

<p>SM How did you prepare the room? did you have a spare one?</p>

<p>BW I made my bedroom into an office/studio.  I sleep in the Kitchen/Living Room</p>

<p>SM So tell me how you made it into a studio, did you strip it?</p>

<p>BW I just have one wall with black and white rolls of paper hanging. The other 3 walls are just storage  and shelves.  I'm beginning to think I should take more external shots.</p>

<p>SM What about the lighting? Do you use lamps and umbrellas?</p>

<p>BW Oh Yeah I've got one soft box overhead and another on the floor which I put on chairs sometimes no need for lamps and umbrellas.</p>


<p>SM Since your first proper camera, what do you think was the most important thing that you learnt about photography was?</p>

<p>BW Pictures can and do lie.</p>
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              Bruce  

Okay we're off. One thing I wanted to ask you is you once said if you die all your artwork would end up in the skip 

 

Naomi  

if I die. 

 

Bruce   

Yeah. 

 

Naomi  

Yeah, I think it probably would, except for some people who have bought my artwork so maybe they'll keep it. 

 

Bruce   

Right. 

 

Naomi  

but I feel tempted to put it in the skip already! 

 

Bruce   

Oh. 

 

Naomi  

ah I don't mind that though. That kind of the nature of  

art sometimes. Kind of has its expiry date, some lives on and some don't. 

 

Bruce 

I think you need some ambition and a little bit of pride in your work. 

 

Naomi 

yes, yeah, well 

 

Bruce 

Ambition, Blonde Ambition. 

 

Naomi  

My ambition with Art is more around, I mean, I like when I produce something that I'm pleased with and they say they like every 1 in a 100 of artwork that you produce, you're pleased with, and the rest not. I can relate to that and I think a lot of artists feel that way. I like the idea of having an exhibition somewhere where people actually go specifically to see my work, you know somewhere in town or something like that. I do have ambition. But I'm more interested in it as a therapeutic tool which I suppose it still can be after you die because it communicates to people doesn't it? And that's helpful. What about you, what how do you envisage? 

 

Bruce  

Well, I have great plans for my work even including reincarnation just in case I get famous after my passing. I feel every picture is a masterpiece. I just need someone to curate my work with a view to fame and fortune or at least notoriety. 

 

Bruce 

Yes, yeah. Which means to sell. 

 

Naomi  

Yeah. I guess that's the difference in the kinds of artwork we make you're producing so much more, but it can be stored digitally. Whereas my cards and artwork could end up in the skip. 

 

Naomi  

You like the idea that after you die, someone will curate your work, this is what you have been planning for right? Me and Debbie? 

 

Bruce 

 Alex might be in the loop.  

 

 

 

Naomi  

Yeah, I know Alex. I feel like I know him. So, he's interested. 

 

Bruce 

He wants me to give him my Leica when I die.  

 

Naomi  

None of us know Do we? I mean you've had a fright before you became very close to death. I didn't know what happened to you. I just knew you were in hospital because I got a message saying, but it was a bit of a job. You weren't thinking clearly because of your blood sugar. Yeah, it's gone through the floor or through the roof, which way, through the roof. Yeah, yeah. 

 

Bruce  

I told you my resolution of Buddhism and Christianity. 

 

Naomi  

You mentioned it once, or Buddhism and Christianity are one. 

 

Bruce   

 And Christianity has multiple reincarnations and as such is complementary to Buddhism. 

 

Naomi 

I think lots of religions are complimentary. I guess the difference with Christianity is, is the belief about the resurrection, which Buddhism wouldn't. I mean I don't know that much about Buddhism. I've not read about Buddhism. 

 

Bruce  

Debbie told me. His four-year-old girl suddenly comes up to her parents in India and asks where is my husband. I want to see my husband, the parents and child walk miles and miles to another village. She recognizes him immediately. She's four years old. And he said his wife had died 10 years ago. She was a child bride. She was also spoke the dialect of the husband's village.  

 

 

 

Naomi 

Yeah. That's quite an anecdote.  

 

Bruce   

It is a fact, it was in the news. I hope to have Citizen Wang Studio as a website on going on for at least 10 years after my demise. I'll pay the subscription ten years ahead and I can reclaim my title when I come back. 

 

Naomi  

Well, but plenty of artists have done that and well beyond 10 years. The Van Gogh family, they've kept it going! And other artists even longer, I'm sure. People have private collections, don't they? So, if you were to donate your work, or you would bequeath it, wouldn't you? 

 

Naomi   

But you wouldn't be exactly the same. You might come back as a girl. You might come back as a cat. And they don't have opposable thumbs, so you know it will be difficult taking pictures. 

 

Bruce  

Yeah. I really want to get more detailed shots of you, in depth portraits of you, Alex, maybe Debbie. I can foresee meeting on a regular basis. 

 

 

Naomi   

So has your experience your near-death experience resulted in you feeling your approach to work being changed/ modified; you said about wanting to work with friends more. 

 

Bruce 

Yes, less of a production line. 

 

Bruce 

I'm not posting every day. A serious series living every day with cancer. The precedent being made by the late, great Jo Spence, she also died cancer. What I will do is certainly more editorial pictures. Okay, more editorial captions. 

 

 

Bruce   

changing my state of mind and being during the next few years. I will try attracting a different crowd of people to my pictures people I never knew was there. 

 

Naomi   

This is more serious people. 

 

Bruce 

What I'm trying to say is I want ordinary extroverted people to pose for me or even introverted people to pose for me I'm more concerned with identity and the challenges the people face in their everyday lives. The range can go from a Postman to Actor to an Academic. They don't have to be facing breast surgery to look more like a man. 

 

Naomi   

But maybe this is part of the work for you. That you're having those kinds of conversations with people and discovering things about people's insecurities, the way they want to be seen by the world. You're negotiating with them and finding a compromise and potentially that is helping them opening up a new way of looking. Puts me in mind of Jo Spences work.  

 

Bruce 

phototherapy? Yes, yes. 

 

Naomi  

How photography can be used. You worked with her didn't you 

 

Bruce 

Yes, I saw her Political Art side at her exhibitions and the real practical side of her when I built her a platform bed and dark room in her home. 

 

Naomi 

Oh right. Because I feel she was somebody who was very influential in doing my degree.  My dissertation was partly about her. 

 

 

Bruce 

What was your dissertation? 

 

Naomi  

It was the title was Identity in Crisis. 

 

Bruce  

 That's exactly what I'm trying to do! 

 

Naomi 

Right! If I could dig it out somewhere I show it to you. 

 

Bruce 

 Yeah. How long was your dissertation? 

 

Naomi 

10,000 words. 

 

Bruce  

I could read that.  In fact. I could make "Identity in Crisis" the title of my next series of photos. It's funny that only now in my 60s I'm getting decent pictures of myself. 

 

Naomi 

I imagine there's an awful lot of people that would never get to that point in their life. I'd say an awful lot. You've done a lot of, sort of, self-exploration, you've had to haven't you? And so that journey has brought you to a place of feeling what's the word integrated? Or self-actualization? 

 

Bruce   

Yeah. see other people's pictures. I have models of people. I see. That's not really them. It's just the front. That is the mask they pose for the camera. I really want to get deep inside somehow getting a more in-depth philosophy. That's also why I choose friends I've known for at least a few years 

 

 

Naomi  

You had the idea of taking pictures while people were talking. Yeah. To the sitter about something, I don't know, something personal. Yeah, and just snapping.  

 

Bruce   

I see lots of pictures so a series and maybe a book contrast in caption underneath. I'm doing a lot of pictures of myself at the moment to capture my moods?  

 

Naomi 

Yeah, I imagine that's quite hard. 

 

Bruce 

I'll take about 15 shots at a time but only at the end of a day of working. These photographs are me thinking about myself. it's a very 70s thing yeah 

 

Naomi 

It's interesting, I get we're all different and you're probably very used to being in front of a camera. But when the cameras pointed at me, I'm extremely aware of it and it's very hard to be myself unless I was distracted into a conversation or if I was being snapped while I was doing something. What would it be like to take pictures of people in their own environments, rather than in your environment... difficult. 

 

Bruce  

Maybe using the whole environment might give more insight. But I'd still want them in front of a white screen. Okay. or black screen 

 

Naomi   

Which they wouldn't have. If you weren't in my home, you wouldn't find it there's no there's no space for a screen 

 

Bruce  

tiny two up two down. 

 

 

Naomi   

It's really tiny. You can hardly swing your cat. But, in addition to that sort of so you'd invite the person to come to you for portraits, but you could also take or maybe invite them to bring some objects with them, rather than you having to go to them, which I'm feeling a little worried about and thinking maybe it's not a good idea to be traveling too much. 

 

Bruce  

Yeah. 

 

Naomi  

But if you invited people to, say, bring five objects with you as props. 

 

Bruce  

I did that with Claire that one with the cigarette. Yeah, yeah, I did that with another guy. They brought their soft toys collection. 

 

Naomi  

That's a good idea.  

 

Bruce  

Soft toys for posing. 

 

Naomi 

Yeah. To get them to bring their first Teddy or something. I've still got my first teddy. 

 

Bruce  

I didn't have a teddy, I had toy soldiers. 

 

 

 

 

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                Bruce and Naomi Chat about Art two
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<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">It was Madonna.</p>
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<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi<span class="x_gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Ah, she definitely had ambition.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">You definitely have Blonde Ambition.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">She wasn't a natural blonde, was she? No, she made herself into one.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Whatever the rating, must the sheer act of making a mark in order to be remembered? The cavemen or women in the Lascaux caves must have had some blonde ambition when they did their drawingsBlonde Ambition in every stroke with a brush, or chisel, or needle, or whatever. The mere fact you're making something in the world to be seen forever.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">How about&hellip;I'm just thinking about artists that have assistants, so they do the stitching, or they do the painting, you know, back through the ages and it still happens. Their names aren&rsquo;t attached to the work.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">They're not credited.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">So, what's that all about? Well, maybe that's the day job. And then in the rest of their time, they are making their own marks that they can call their own.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">A lot of these assistants were apprentices Titian was such a good apprentice that he outshone his boss and was sacked.<span class="x_gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Oh yes? You don&rsquo;t want your apprentice to get better than you are.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce,</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Titian had enormous Blonde Ambition, when the local Art Society were putting out tenders for their oval ceiling in their grand palace, and were inviting tenders from all the local artists. Titian got an insider to get the measurements of the oval for him and he painted and erected the oval picture on the ceiling by breaking in one night, erecting his picture<span class="x_gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>and preempting all the other artists.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Gosh, yes, that's cheeky.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">So, he definitely had Blonde Ambition<span class="x_gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">it's interesting that this expression originated from Madonna. This is a massive generalization, but I often experience female artists as more ambitious than their male counterparts. Although perhaps ambition isn&rsquo;t the right word&hellip;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">I think so, although there&rsquo;s artists such as Tracy Emin and Sarah Lucas.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi<span class="x_gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">But we know about them, they're an exception, aren't they? Yeah, that's why they stand out because they're unusual, they really sort of had to maybe go against their natural instincts and push in order to be seen and they've done it, which is great. I admire them, but I find promoting my work very hard. I like it when it's recognized by someone if somebody says &lsquo;Oh, I like that&rsquo; and they get something from it, but I can't sell myself. Hmm You're better at self-promotion than I am.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Oh yes.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi<span class="x_gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Yeah. Good that you sold so many books recently.</p>
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<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Oh, I sold over 100 The last three months!</p>
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<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">well, that's great!</p>

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                Bruce and Naomi Chat Art Three
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              <p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">They&rsquo;re not buying the prints. How are your books selling?</p>
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<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">So, when the book was first released, I sold about 100 within a month, but now it's just drips and drabs.</p>
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<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Oh.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">My books don't have an ISBN number. I can't sell in mainstream bookstores. But I keep trying, I keep writing to publishers. Did I tell you about the writer that I contacted? Um, he sent me an email. He read my book and was so nice about it and he recommended his agent. And so I've sent the book to his agent. I haven't heard anything yet. They always take a long time; they take a few weeks minimum. Yes. The problem is I forget who I've contacted, I need to be organized and it write down. Well, I do write it down, but they're all separate but if paper. I get a lot of encouragement at Core Arts, it keeps me pushing forward. Then I find the motivation to visit independent bookshops and pitch my book. Shops in north and east London so far.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce<span class="x_gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">wow. Could get soul destroying though?</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Well, it's funny because, you know, it seems there are good days and bad days. The other day I went out, no one was interested. And the previous time I went out, they all took one or two. So, that day I thought, &lsquo;this is great&rsquo;. And then the next time I just thought I'd wasted my time. But you just have to keep pushing, don't you? And grab the days when you feel motivated to sell yourself. We're selling my work. It feels like I&rsquo;m selling myself, as my work is so personal, it&rsquo;s all about me.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">All you need is a manifesto. Why you're doing it.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi<span class="x_gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">I kind of do have a manifesto, I think. You&rsquo;re right, there's something in that. What's your manifesto?</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Oh, my manifesto is my biography of my involvement with artistic people. And my ambitions. I just describe how I see photography and what I try to do with it. It's in my blog.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Yeah, I've read your blog.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Your manifest.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Yeah. I guess I do have a manifesto. I mean, what I want to do is to talk about things that people don't like talking about. I want to talk about body parts, mental health, death too. Because you can approach things with art in a way that doesn't threaten, so people don't realize it is getting in and then they're having a conversation about it.<span class="x_gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce<span class="x_gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">I think men talk about the mind more and about fantasy relationships.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Women talk about the mind a lot as well. Fantasy relationships&hellip;maybe not in the same way. There's different ways of talking about the mind. I guess there's the emotional mind and then the cerebral mind.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce<span class="x_gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">The male approach is about wish fulfilment. The idea of the perfect woman being passive naked with big breasts. This isn&rsquo;t something that is of so much interest to women.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">No, I remember once. I was with my mate, when I was a teenager and she bought this porn mag, you know, with men in?<span class="x_gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>And we just sat there laughing. Looking through it and laughing.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Oh no. I think that was a magazine for gay men.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi<span class="x_gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Yeah, it must have been. I don't think women go for that. I think the interest is less visual.<span class="x_gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Yeah, men need to see things in black and white. There's a need to see the naked female. Don&rsquo;t think I&rsquo;ve ever photographed a naked woman.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">yes, you're interested in something different, aren't you? Your pictures aren't porn, you wouldn't be an artist if they were. There's a much more complexity to your pictures.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">There&rsquo;s someone who keeps posting pornographic pictures on my Facebook page. Women thrusting their breasts at the camera. Although, he recently posted one of a woman, where 90% of her body parts were hidden, due to how she was sitting, I &lsquo;liked&rsquo; that, as it was in better taste.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Yeah, that's different. Because I find as a woman, even soft porn is quite disturbing. A woman might say, well, I chose to do this, but why would a woman choose to do that? What&rsquo;s happened in her life for her to be ok with this?<span class="x_gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Some gay women have pictures taken of their naked bodies, to inspire other women to do the same. They don&rsquo;t have the idealized figure.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">That&rsquo;s interesting.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Quite a big hoo-ha in FB magazine. Actress, Adriana posting daily pictures of herself completely naked. Weird, a sort of hobby?</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">I mean, I guess I could understand it, I wouldn't do it myself though. Something I have considered, quite a lot and I think I might do, is sit as a life model in a class, because that feels different.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Yeah.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">And when I've gone to life classes, it's been the bodies that look lived in that I found beautiful</p>
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<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Yes.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">You know the lumps and the bumps and the wrinkles that's great. If somebody is completely trim and you know muscle clad, I find it less interesting.</p>
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<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi&nbsp;<span class="x_gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Yeah</p>
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<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">I have met all sorts of people, in my time in hospital.</p>
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<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Do you think those experiences have inspired your creative process?</p>
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<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Oh yes it informed me of what I did not want to do in relationships. I saw him once a week and found his stories fascinating, like research. Fascinating to hear how low people&rsquo;s standards can drop, while still being regarded as mentally healthy.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Yes, that's an interesting one isn't it. There are quite a few people in our public eye, we could say the same about. I think maybe then the people deemed mentally ill are the ones that are having a more rational response. Who said that mental illness is a sane response to an insane world?</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Was it RD Laing?</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">I've actually stayed in RD Laing house for six months, and a few years later, saw a documentary on the same house. The first thing they did is ask the family to accompany the patient to do a therapy session. The therapist then drives a wedge between the patient and their family and then they end up blaming their family for everything.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">That sounds a bit much yeah.<span class="x_gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">This is a few years after he died, but then again, he was an alcoholic, so he was ill too.He wrote his book, while under the influence.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">I think a lot of well known psychiatrists had their own problems. I find it hard to imagine how you could be passionately interested in something like mental health unless you've had an experience.</p>
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<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">It makes me think of something I heard. Maybe it in ancient Rome. I can't remember exactly, but the idea was that ideas and intellectual conversations, were generated whilst drunk and that was thought to really sort of open the mind. But then the ideas would be checked again when sober. Hmm. So that that was thought to be the best way to really bring out the best ideas and to free the mind, which makes sense.<span class="x_gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">&nbsp;</span></p>

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                Bruce and Naomi Chat about Art 4
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              <p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;"><span class="markybdrcabr2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;" data-markjs="true" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="">Bruce</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Hmm.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">I think there's been a lot of really screwed up practice in mental health. Members of my family have been victim to dodgy treatment. Like, there was a period of doing therapy with people whilst they were under the influence of LSD. And it really messed a lot of people up. But recently there was an article in The Guardian revisiting this approach, having done some proper research now into the use of hallucinogens to treat mental illness, but, I hope, it would be done in a much more ethical way.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">But there were also good things in the past that no longer happen. When care in the community came along. It has good aspects. Yeah, but also a lot of people lost an awful lot of support.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;"><span class="markybdrcabr2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;" data-markjs="true" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="">Bruce</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Yes. I did some work as carpentry supervisor at a psychiatric hospital, so the patients learned a craft.</p>
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<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;"><span class="markybdrcabr2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;" data-markjs="true" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="">Bruce</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Skills. Yeah.</p>
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<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">People spent years in these hospitals and became institutionalized and then to expect somebody to function outside, in the world, is asking too much.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;"><span class="markybdrcabr2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;" data-markjs="true" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="">Bruce</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Yes.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Yeah. When I worked at St. Luke's, they closed some of the long stay awards and they just sent people out into the community, with nowhere near the same level of support.<span class="x_gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;"><span class="markybdrcabr2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;" data-markjs="true" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="">Bruce</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Muswell Hill. Yeah, I was there in the late 70s.<span class="x_gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">Oh, I worked there from around 2003, for several years, as a nurse.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px; min-height: 12px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;"><span class="markybdrcabr2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;" data-markjs="true" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="">Bruce</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; background-color: #red; margin: 0px;">We didn&rsquo;t cross paths then, much later than when I was there.</p>
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                Bruce and Naomi Talk Art 5
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              <p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Shall we speak about the state of the art market?</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; min-height: 13px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">I really don't know a lot about the state of the art market. Do you?</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; min-height: 13px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;"><span class="mark2u5nz3pd2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;" data-markjs="true" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="">Bruce</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Some artists seem to make a fortune whereas young artists have to struggle to be seen.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; min-height: 13px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">I'm gonna be controversial. I went to Hockney exhibition about a month ago. And I know he's a national treasure. I get that. But he's churning this stuff out. And it no longer interests me. His old stuff was exciting and interesting. The LA stuff. The swimming pools and coming out. The gay scene. This stuff just feels like, okay, you've got a lovely house in France. And the pictures all looked pretty similar. He did them on his iPad. And I thought come on move over and give someone else a chance.<span class="x_gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; min-height: 13px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;"><span class="mark2u5nz3pd2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;" data-markjs="true" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="">Bruce</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Then there is Rodin, who was hugely successful and pioneering in his approach. But later on he would just be paid a fortune by individual wealthy people to make busts of them.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; min-height: 13px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">And so then you become&hellip;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; min-height: 13px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;"><span class="mark2u5nz3pd2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;" data-markjs="true" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="">Bruce</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">A parody of yourself. Yeah.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; min-height: 13px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Yeah. He had some very interesting and radical ideas and ways of working and that's what you want to remember. I'm sure that's what he would want us to remember him for.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;"><span class="mark2u5nz3pd2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;" data-markjs="true" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="">Bruce</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; min-height: 13px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; min-height: 13px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;"><span class="mark2u5nz3pd2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;" data-markjs="true" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="">Bruce</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Yeah.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; min-height: 13px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">I guess it's hard to say no to these rich people that want to offer you lots of money. How do you stop yourself from selling out?</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; min-height: 13px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;"><span class="mark2u5nz3pd2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;" data-markjs="true" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="">Bruce</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">All I have ever tried to do is take good pictures. I discovered the quality of the picture comes from the expressiveness of the person. Where the subject may be slightly on edge and apprehensive.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; min-height: 13px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Well, that's a good description of me.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; min-height: 13px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;"><span class="mark2u5nz3pd2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;" data-markjs="true" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="">Bruce</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Yeah.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; min-height: 13px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">I have been given this diagnosis which I thought was excellent. It was about my heart. I've got a faulty valve. And it said I have a bicuspid aortic valve with mild eccentric turbulence. And I thought well, that's my state of mind. Sometimes less mild. It's just thought it was brilliant. I need to create some kind of artwork and call it eccentric turbulence. It's a congenital it's all right at the moment. It could get bad in future. I get checked every year, I think radiographers are artists, I love watching or looking at the images of what&rsquo;s going on inside.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;"><span class="mark2u5nz3pd2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;" data-markjs="true" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="">Bruce</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">This vape seems to cause me to get dripping into my throat at night. It keeps me awake.</p>
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<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Sounds like acid reflux. I suffer with it too. Do you take Gaviscon pills? Yes. Take a couple of those last thing don't have a drink after just take those and go to sleep. Your medication may be causing it.</p>
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<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; min-height: 13px;">&nbsp;</p>
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<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; min-height: 13px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; min-height: 13px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;"><span class="mark2u5nz3pd2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;" data-markjs="true" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="">Bruce</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">I had a conversation with my friend Sean up in Glasgow. And he said not to let death take over my thinking. That&rsquo;s what has happened and that&rsquo;s half way to death. It made complete sense so I snapped out of it. I'm thinking I could live another 30 odd years.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; min-height: 13px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">I'd say it's fair enough that it was taking up a lot of your thinking. It's good that you've been able to switch to thinking about life. I think it's about balance isn't it? Yeah, I read a book which talked about death becoming more prominent in our minds as we get older. It was called Every Third Thought.</p>
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<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;"><span class="mark2u5nz3pd2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;" data-markjs="true" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="">Bruce</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Once you get past 60 year olds these adverts on Facebook for cheap funerals.</p>
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<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">That would piss me off so much. I would change your age on Facebook.</p>
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<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;"><span class="mark2u5nz3pd2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;" data-markjs="true" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="">Bruce</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Oh yes.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; min-height: 13px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Put yourself down as 30</p>
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<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Bruce</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Oh, good idea.</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; min-height: 13px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Naomi</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">A friend of mine has got herself down as a 1000 years old.<span class="x_gmail-Apple-converted-space" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica; min-height: 13px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;"><span class="mark2u5nz3pd2" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;" data-markjs="true" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="">Bruce</span></p>
<p class="x_gmail-p1" style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">There&rsquo;s also these Bitcoin emails, wanting to make you into a millionaire. If they are millionaires, why are they troubling themselves to contact individuals? Doesn&rsquo;t make sense.</p>
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              <p style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Bruce</p>
<p style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">I heard an interesting article on radio 4 last night about the Turner prize. They are no longer after individual artists beavering away in their garrets. Theyre doing community groups and collectives. Its sad really I think. If you think of the question what is art for? You can&rsquo;t argue against giving opportunities to people in the community, but it doesn&rsquo;t interest me and I wont be going to the exhibition.</p>
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<p style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Naomi</p>
<p style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Its interesting because if you think of the question what is art for and that it needs to respond to the times and we live in a time of pandemic and recognising the need for community cohesion. Then maybe the Turner prize is trying to respond to that. Where I live theres quite an emphasis on community arts and individual artists are more likely to get a studio for example if they can show they have been involved in a community arts project. I think it was Steve McQueen who did the exhibition of hundreds of school groups at the Tate. It drew in lots of schools, wanting to see their picture on the wall and engage in activities related to the art. It was nice in a way to see.</p>
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<p style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Bruce</p>
<p style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Did he. He actually ran them? Wow. Well part of me thinks that art should be an elitist topic but several years ago a guy one the Turner prize for the one idea of a light turning on and off in a room with a few objects. That really was taking the biscuit, that was too elitist.</p>
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<p style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Naomi</p>
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<p style="-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased; margin: 0px 0px 8px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;">Bruce</p>
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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Naomi</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Fridays prints before isolating (shares pictures of recent work).</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Bruce</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Theyre great. I imagine them much bigger and in oils.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Naomi</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I don&rsquo;t want them bigger, or in oils, the size is intentional.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Bruce</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Portable?</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Naomi</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Intimate. Small scale asks the viewer to lean in. As though I am sharing something private. Personal. Which it is. Our creative process is like taking a journey into the psyche if we allow it to be.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Etching a controlled process then contrast with gestural mark making. I am exploring how the images might be displayed in vitrines.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">These could sit alongside my matchbox paintings in which I am retelling the story of my mums death to enable me to process the trauma. I use the watercolour and collage to obscure the writing, which is done in pencil. The paintings are then folded like a concertina and stored in matchboxes. This could invite curiosity but also a sense of invasion of privacy for the viewer.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I am focused mostly on process and trying not to worry too much about the end product. Loose ideas may form but I may also abandon them. It is interesting how the mind always wants to fast forward and resists being in the now. I am trying to respond to my instincts.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Bruce</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Very good. You&rsquo;ve put a lot of thought into this. Well done.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Naomi</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Im not really explaining it very well. I guess I don&rsquo;t want to overthink as that will defeat the object. My head is foggy.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Bruce</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">No you&rsquo;ve explained it concisely and well.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Naomi</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Small scale is new territory for me. I want to get smaller still.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Bruce</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Nanotechnology.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Naomi</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Magnifying glass required.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Bruce</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Monetisation always on my shoulder when I do anything. Maybe a bit of a mistake.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Naomi</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I think it could hinder creativity. You need childs eyes. I don&rsquo;t even want to sell what Im working on. I cant imagine who would buy it. Can&rsquo;t exactly hang the matchboxes on the wall. Its more the concept&hellip;</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Bruce</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Childs eyes in a market dominated by old men and a few women.</span></p>
<span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;"><br aria-hidden="true" /></span></span>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">(Naomi shows Bruce some more artworks made while she has been isolating with covid.)</span></p>
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<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Naomi</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">My recent artworks explore themes of contrasting curiosity and play. Theyre more drypoint etchings of geometric shapes where I have explored composition. Very definite clear lines. This is followed by ink and watercolours which I have allowed to do their own thing, with minimal intervention. I want to be in the moment and withhold any expectation. Bin the disabling perfectionism. Have fun!</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Bruce</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">These are excellent. Bravissimo!</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Naomi</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I have felt held back by perfectionism and I was no longer enjoying making art. I&rsquo;m finding a way to a new approach that involves play and real creativity. We have so much to learn from children in this respect.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Bruce</span></p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.295; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 8pt;"><span style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-ligatures: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 11pt; line-height: inherit; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Yes absolutely its working for you.</span></p>
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              <h5>diCorcia Heads Exposed</h5>

<h6>By Naomi Elfred-Ross</h6>

 

<p>I have recently been reading a beautiful graphic novel called Seek You: A Journey Through American Loneliness, by Kirsten Radtke. I say novel, but it is more a piece of research, or an essay with meticulously wrought illustrations. 

Radtke brought my attention to photographer Philip-Lorca diCorcia and his famous body of work; Heads. diCorcia set up his camera on a tripod in Times Square and using powerful strobe lights, which he attached to scaffold, he went on to take thousands of photographs of pedestrians, as they made their way through the crowds. Perhaps they were out shopping, or on their way home from work. The strobe lighting highlighted the features of the individuals, with a rather ghostly effect, who would otherwise be unseen amidst the shadows. </p>
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The images, that were taken at some 20 feet away, have an intimate quality as though it were possible to reach out and touch them, the detail is so fine. There is a sense of voyeurism in knowing that the subjects were unaware that they were being photographed, their vulnerability exposed, as they lose themselves in the crowd. Yet I wonder how often we ever feel truly anonymous and lost in the city, in an age of high surveillance, camera phones and social media? Can we ever really let our guard down, or are we always left with a sense that we might be being watched, at any given moment? If it were possible, it may bring comfort to know that we can become invisible, but it may also feel incredibly isolating, as we are social beings and surely most desire and need to connect, to be seen and to be known. However, how we are seen and known is crucial and so we are left in a perpetual state of self-consciousness. It is no surprise, therefore, to note Radtkes observation that diCorcias images seem neither posed, nor candid, but in some eerie liminal space, as if the subjects can sense theyre being watched. (Radtke 2021). </p>
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<h6>KIM BY BRUCE WANG</h6><br/>
<p>I had initially felt entranced by these images, as they appealed to my own vulnerability and sense of isolation. Here, I was being presented with a snippet of another human beings private world. I found myself trying to imagine something of what their lives might be like. Where were they going? Where had they been? Are they going home to someone who loves them, or are they alone in the world? Their apparent vulnerability, as unknowing subjects, felt like a hand reaching out to mine and I felt less alone. Yet I also felt myself being exploited, as I believe the subjects of the pictures were and so the work has a dishonesty about it, for me. 

Bruce and I have often conversed, in the past, about how the true essence of a person is captured photographically. </p>
<p>Bruce looks for this, through taking multiple snaps, up close, in his studio. He searches through afterwards for those that speak to him. I wonder if it is possible to put into words exactly what he is looking for, or if it is a more instinctive, emotional response, that resonates with something of our own experience of what it is to be alive. If this is the case, then of course the selected images are subjective, and I wonder how the photographer is able to judge that what they perceives is also what others will see too? I wonder what the truth in photography really means, and can a photograph truly be unedited? </p>
<p>I think Bruce acknowledges this in his work and explores the juxtaposition between the self we wish to share with the world and that which we wish to keep private. 

Surely the selection process is a kind of editing, as diCorcia had to decide on a selection of images taken from thousands. Yes, there is the initial emotional response, but the brain has an amazing knack of categorising and stereotyping.</p>
<p> I wonder if a more honest way to work would be to select at random, but the photographer will be seeking to sell their work and so this would be taking a massive risk. So, is diCorcias Heads simply exploiting our vulnerability and need to be seen, amidst a pandemic of isolation? Our need to connect, to recognise the familiar and to belong. I find myself becoming increasingly cynical the more I consider his motivation. His process feeling somewhat staged and theatrical. A comment on the world we live in perhaps, where we are, more than ever, expected to create avatars of ourselves, to play a part and all the while, we disconnect from ourselves and from the world. Seems pretty bleak. 

Thinking of what motivates me creatively, in this particular context; I know there have often been times I have passed somebody on the street and longed to take their photograph, just as they are. I would need to take it without them knowing, otherwise they would become guarded and may try to pose. This is the point I decide to keep on walking, because I would not want to invade anyones privacy or intimate revelry. Who are these people who interest me anyway? Are we all drawn to certain associations of what is universally true as reflecting something of humanity? I wonder if it is better to acknowledge there will always be limitations within all art making and make no pretence to the contrary. This, of course, should not deter any artists from expressing whatever it is that inspires them and commenting, in their own unique way, about the world they exist it. In doing this they are sharing something of their own lived experience and what could be more human about that? 
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<p>Reference</p>

<p>-Radtke Kirsten. (2021). Seek You: A Journey Through American Loneliness. Pantheon Books, New York.</p>  

 
<p>Hi Naomi, 

 

 

Many thanks for making me aware of the work of Philip-Lorca DiCorcia.  I have looked and looked at and read about his work for a few days now. The only way I could make a start in replying to you was to send you 6 of his pictures, 2 of mine, 1 by a lesbian couple and the final archive picture of 3 Bauhaus students seen here while taking a photo break from their famous, weekly Bauhaus celebrations circa 1934. 

 

My two  pictures are editorial narrative pictures inspired by artist Boyd Webb.  As editorial pictures, they do not have any text attached, and are meant to stir emotions and Art awareness. 

 

Here is just a stream of thoughts which I will edit after my nights sleep: 

 

Of all the women on show, I would most like to work with the 3 Bauhaus women. 

 

The lesbian couple are excellent photographers in their own right. 

 

So that just leaves Mr DiCorcia. 

 

Telephoto Lenses as used by DiCorcia, are like using a snipers rifle when Game Hunting. To continue the metaphor, the Game is  shot/butchered, packed, and arrives in the Art Gallery/Supermarket a few days later.  The same applies to the Hassidic Jew subject who unsuccessfully sued DiCorcia for invasion of privacy. I have never used telephoto lenses as I like to get up close and personal with my sitters. 

 

The 4 Caucasian Women. Their photos are very similar to those used by middle class Caucasian women on Singles Dating Sites. Yes, they all appear vulnerable, fragile and unguarded.  But look again and see that underneath they all wear iron fists over velvet gloves. 

 

The South East Asian Women.  I find these photos a bit disappointing.  They show South East Asian Women to be sexual playthings and emotional dwarves. 

 

Best wishes,   Bruce </p>
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              <h6>Happy Accidents</h6>

<h5>Creative conversations with Bruce 16/04/22 by Naomi Elfred-Ross</h5>

 

<p>As we often like to do, Bruce and I were discussing our art practice. I enjoy doing this, as its a great way to contemplate my own approach to my art, through sharing ideas and hearing Bruces thoughts and ideas.  

Bruce recently shared with me some self portraits he had taken, entitled Bad hair day. They are black and white shots with dramatic contrast, obscuring much of the image and yet, somehow, accentuating its impact as an artwork. The pictures have a surrealist quality. 

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<p>Bruce described the photos as happy accidents. This got me thinking about the role of the supposed accidents in my own art practice. I put to Bruce that Freud had famously said that there are no accidents and I wondered if what had happened for Bruce was that perhaps the true artist emerges when we are playing and seeking less to impose expectation on the creative process, but rather allowing ourselves to explore and enjoy ourselves. Previous blogs have spoken of my own approach to painting, as I try to shake off the shackles of perfectionism and allow myself to be as curious as a child. I certainly find that I am always much happier with the end result of an artwork, be it painting or printmaking, when I have allowed myself to let go. </p>
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<p>Bruce commented that he saw his camera as it if were a brush, which paints in a fraction of a second. He said he used to paint but gave it up as he used to think faster than he could paint. For this reason, the camera very much suits Bruce, as his tool for creative expression. <?p>
<p>This is something I can relate to, as I often find I have several pieces of work on the go at the same time, which feels like a circular conveyor belt. I feel a sort of excited energy when I paint and I have no patience to allow paint to dry, so I move on to a new piece. I am very open to happy accidents and enjoy experimenting with different medium and mark making techniques to see what emerges. Having suffered recent bereavements, I feel my unconscious needs to be liberated and painting has become my strategy for allowing this to happen. 

In this context, I am very much drawing on some of the ideas of the surrealist movement, who sought to create opportunities for their unconscious processes to emerge and inform their work. For this, they would employ a variety of strategies, including doodling, collage, frottage, decalcomania and grattage. An artist friend of mine is very much embracing the surrealist movement and their approaches and is producing some fascinating results, which have generated some interesting discussions between he and I. I thank him for this, as it felt as though working alongside him has opened up a whole new world for me. 

I think, with the odd exception, it is vital that artists share ideas and do not work in isolation. Bruce once spoke about his image of himself as the lone artist, working alone, in his garret. I can see how the notion might have romantic connotations, but the reality, certainly for me, would be bad for my mental health and my artwork would quickly become stagnant. </p>
<p>To be honest, I cannot agree that Bruce does work in isolation, as the very nature of his photography is portraiture and unless these works are solely self portraits, which is not the case for Bruce, how could he be working alone? Bruce draws from his subjects for inspiration and new ideas, he meets people from all walks of life; their stories are carried in their faces, in their eyes. Bruce, also has a prolific presence on social media, so he is reaching out to thousands, potentially millions. This blog also speaks to the artists dependence on the input of others.</p>
<p>Artists reach out to the world and use their feedback to inform their next step, even if we dont realise we are. We are all social beings after all. I think, for me, it is about balance; time is needed among other artists or sharing work with the public, while there is then an equal need to be alone, to process what has been learned, to sketch/doodle, be that with a brush or camera; to play. 

Some paintings I have recently been working on could also be described as happy accidents. I came to the studio feeling somewhat flat and uninspired; just one of those days. So, perhaps as the surrealists might have done, I looked about the room, gathering random objects that jumped out at me, I didnt pause to consider why they did, they just did. I then placed the motley assembly on the table and selected painting surfaces that had already been used and had been reprimed, so they had a texture, I selected four. I like the idea of working on surfaces that already have a history. I then randomly selected colours to work with (I used acrylics and inks) and initially created a background, using different markmaking techniques to apply the paint, moving from one piece to the next. Following this a rapidly painted shapes that caught my eye from each of the object in front of me, rotating the surface each time, building up layers of shapes and colour. I constantly moved from one piece to the next, as paint dried, so there was no momentum lost, which felt vital in preventing my inclination towards perfectionism from getting involved and ruining my fun. I was so pleased with the end result, as what I could see was exactly what I was experiencing as I worked; it had been such an intense, vibrant and joyful experience, quite removed from the mood I had arrived with. I left the studio feeling buoyed on to keep exploring, I feel like Im on the right path. </p>
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<h5>16/04/2022 by Naomi Elfred-Ross</h5>

 

<p>Bruce has recently commissioned me to do two screen prints for him; one of him and one of his partner, Kathryn. I have wanted to do a portrait of Bruce for some time now and having recently had the opportunity to dip my toe back in the world of screen printing, I have been reminded of how much I enjoy the process and the vibrant impact of the end result. Theres something quite joyous about its boldness. This reintroduction was the creation of a self portrait and one of my husband, Adam. I monoprinted the background, working gesturally and rapidly, as I was using the screen. </p><p>I then created templates taken from photographs of Adam and I (I dont have access to the technology of photographic screen printing) and screen printed the images, in black, on top.</p><p> The end result had a real pop art sort of flavour and I am hoping that Andy Warhol doesnt try to sue me, from the grave, although I have a suspicion that he wouldnt mind. The portraits are meant as a gift for our 10 year wedding anniversary, which is later this month, so all of this is top secret information! Anyway, I was pleased and flattered that Bruce had asked me to do this for him. 

As we conversed through messenger, a discussion about who took the photos that were used for the print took place. Bruce was very much of the opinion that, if I were to have full authorship over the end result, I should take the photos. I must admit, that was my initial intention.</p><p> However, I also started to reflect that I was not the photographer here and have never claimed to be. I take snaps with my camera phone, which is particularly helpful when Im thinking about the composition of an artwork of gathering ideas. </p><p>I use my phone as a sort of sketchbook, but I am an amateur. Whereas, Bruces brand is very much in the field of photography, in which he has become quite the icon. I was interested in the idea of recontextualising his images, using a different medium. I was also interested in the relationship between Kathryn and Bruce and what each might draw out of the other, as they sat for one another. Surely the camera would see something I would have no hope of finding? Theres an argument either way, so in many ways, I am open to try different approaches and to see what grabs me.  

However, it was the matter of authorship that really got me thinking.</p>
<p>What does it mean to have full authorship over a work of art and is it at all possible? I also wondered why it is necessary. It felt like a very purist way of thinking and given that artists have an important role in drawing ideas from and commenting on the world existing around them, are we not borrowing and reappropriating all the time, in a world of mass media and information overload? It is surely impossible to block all of that out and create from scratch. 

Can it not be said that, even though an artist might borrow and reappropriate ideas from other sources, the end result will surely bring a new way of seeing. Returning to the pop art movement and Andy Warhol specifically, he had intentionally sought to produce work that was mass produced and as anonymous as an advert on a billboard, but his work is still always recognisably his. As was his intention, he had no shame in borrowing from mass culture and yet he could not avoid but bring something new and exciting and this could only have come from him, the artist, the author. Warhol was interested in iconic brands and for me, Bruce is my iconic brand, he is Citizen Wang and as an artist of a different discipline, I want to reinterpret his work. To give it a new context. 

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<p>My thoughts then turned to the Dadaists, which is a movement both Bruce and I have often talked about and are very much defined by the reappropriation of pre-existing objects. MoMA  defines appropriation as the intentional borrowing, altering or copying of pre-existing images and objects. It has been a well used form of expression for well over a century and the practice was, in fact, thought do be pioneered by dadaism. Marcel Duchamp, one of the key figures of the movement made readymades, by selecting and modifying readymade objects. He also used an approach that involved simply repositioning and then signing an object he had chosen, imbuing a sense of irony and downright cheekiness.  

Marlene Dumas is a favourite artist of mine who rarely, if ever, works from life. Instead, she borrows from media images and historical references. Her ghostly portraits are intense and emotionally charged, as they address existential themes and political topics. She often deals with controversial topics and so the use of borrowed images enables her to have the necessary distance from the subject to enable her to paint.  What emerges is something quite unique and would not be recognised as anything but a work by Dumas, in her very unique style. Surely there is no question of authorship here. 

However, the subject of authorship is something that artists continue to grapple with and understandably so as we do live in a culture of mass litigation!</p>
<p>I was recently having a conversation with a fellow printmaker, who said that he felt he always had to start his creative process by observing and sketching from life. This is, of course, a personal choice and he seemed to have no issue with others using different approaches. Perhaps it is something he enjoys doing and thats fair enough. However, I prefer to feel the freedom to choose. I find there is much inspiration to be gleaned from browsing online and hacking up newspapers and magazines, as it tells me about the world around me from a range of perspectives, not just mine.  

So, coming back to how I will approach Bruces commission. Well, I suppose, as he is paying me, he must be allowed some input, but it he wants a work that Naomi Elfred-Ross can sign, as her own, with confidence, I have to request my creative freedom and hope that hes onboard, as Im potentially reliant on him lending me something of himself. I can only hope that he will feel flattered by my wish to offer my own perspective of him and Kathryn and the brand of Citizen Wang. What do you say Bruce? 
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<p>Ps. Some of the thoughts and assertions made in this blog have been borrowed and reappropriated for the purpose of my argument. I am unable to recall many of the sources, as it is all information stored in my brain from the many occasions I have flicked through art magazines or online searches. I give thanks to all those unremembered contributors to this piece.</p>
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BRUCE: Some might  say that vast swaths of the current Art Scene already is Insulting and Offensive.

But first, lets consider the multi billion dollar, International Art Market. Already an obscenity in itself NOT only for their obsess/abscess with dead Artists and the resale value of their work, but also because carefully selected living Artists are forced to continue creating while wearing Golden Handcuffs.

Hold that thought.

Ive been to Tate Modern 2 or 3 times recently and found it oppressive:
The huge Cathedral-like building + Extension converted with precision, and the best sourced materials. Just like a Cathedral but without Deity to get in the way.
The Merchandising and Indoctrination messages for the young children of the family groups reads, The Most Expensive must be The Best and Do not dare to criticise The Art by making a noise or a mess.

NAOMI: I think youve said an awful lot there which needs unpacking. I think you need to focus your thinking, as this constitutes numerous blogs. 
I think the gallery experience angle is interesting. The sanitisation of art. Making art into an institution. Eden it really should be anti institution. I prefer the galleries that maintain a respect for that. 
How should art be displayed I wonder? How can living artists be seen? 

I think theres a role for art to speak to us on unlimited levels. Insulting and offensive is part of something much broader. It would be an insult to art to limit it to such a narrowly defined role. It reflects our world back at us and enables us to ask questions, as it opens important debates which happen on a personal level, but also societal and global. So how can it be best curated?

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We all must remember our adolescent yearnings for Married Love or Relationship Love where there is rutting all day and halfway into the night, until both partners collapse into Narcolepsy, induced by too many orgasms. Stopwatches.



Myself, I was born in 1953 and I am A Grower not a Shower .   Size.

In 2022 I started a Meaningful Relationship which rendered all previous relationships relatively execrable ie badly choreographed and scripted, with performers who did not know their motivations and missed most of their cues. I must put it on record that I am experiencing bigger and stronger erections @ 68 years old than when I was 20. However the Jizzum Quantity is still low.. This may be down to my Chemotherapy side effects.  


I do not possess a Micropenis, but years and years ago I chanced upon an advert which looked like a cigarette case with adjustable aperture and upholstered lining. This proud product brought home to me, at a glance, its tragic implications it has remained in my psyche and has been part of everything I feel whilst writing this Sex Manual.  REST ASSURED, BROTHERS.
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              <h5>Tracey Emin, Andreas Gursky,   Vincent Van Gogh. Offensive and Insulting: The Role of Art in Society</h5>


<p>I recently shared an image with Bruce which had piqued my interest. It was taken from a new exhibition and showed a multi-generational family. The exhibition intended to explore the effects of time and of nature versus nurture. I was interested to see the exhibition as I curious about the dynamics that exist in families. This is possibly because my own experience of family has been of one that was incredibly fractured, isolated and insular and now, largely, gone. I felt myself looking at these images and recognising something that I either once had, but now miss, or that has been absent, but longed for. For me, these photographs had played arts most fundamental role, as they had moved me in a not entirely comfortable, but necessary way. I had learnt something about myself and something of the commonality of what it is to be human. 

</p><p>I had thought Bruce might be interested, as he takes photographic portraits and is interested in using this medium to capture the unguarded essence of each individual sitter; no easy task. So I was surprised to find that he was not impressed. He replied that he thought the role of art was to be insulting and offensive. Somehow, I had felt a little offended by this abrupt response; in a world that feels so full of insults and offence, why would we seek it out in art? This was my gut reaction anyway. Then I started to wonder if Bruce had, in fact, been offended by the images I shared. Had these images pushed a button and had subtly achieved exactly what he had thought they lacked? Isnt this what art is good at; communicating with us, while our guard is down and so it can be processed on a much deeper level? 

</p><p>I recently visited an exhibition of Andreas Gurskys photographs, at the White Cube gallery and found myself struggling to connect with many of these expansive and visually impressive images. Adam, who I was with, said that he found them too perfect and I agreed with that. They were so crisp and defined and had a sense of hyperreality which made me feel chilled. I also got very little sense of human presence, many of these images being representational of capitalist culture, represented by buildings or advertisements or models on a catwalk who looked more like menacing robots than anything I could relate to. I could not say I particularly enjoyed the exhibition, on the whole. However, it had certainly affected me as it reflected something of my experience of the culture I live in on a daily basis and how it can make me feel. I felt uncomfortable because Gursky was doing his job as an artist.

</p><p>I particularly like the White Cube gallery as it is a space that offers the art it displays a blank canvas. The artist and curator work together on showing art exactly as it is intended to be seen. The gallery has the luxury of not being a major tourist destination, like the Tate for example, and so has no need to pander to this industry in any way. It has a shop, but one would be hard pushed to describe it as a gift shop. It is a bookshop with some seriously stunning exhibition catalogues to lust over. While I am drawn to the gallery gift shop, I can see how degrading some of the merchandise can be. This particularly struck me when visiting an exhibition of Van Goghs self-portraits. Van Gogh being my first love, as an artist, I really relished the opportunity to see these highly personal paintings in close quarters, which told the story of a genius of a man in deep turmoil. It had felt like an honour. Yet on arriving at the gift shop, what was I met with but pencil erasers depicting the severed ear of this tortured soul. This seemed to be in deeply bad taste and I was glad to later hear that this particular item had been discontinued. 

</p><p>I am profoundly grateful when a gallery does not ask the visitor to read reams of text that are supposed to serve to explain what is in front of them. I find this practice rather patronising, as it seems to assume we, the audience, are incapable of having our own experience of what is in front of us. In my view, text in galleries, which frequently reads as nonsense, takes us to the wrong side of the brain and so we are not able to be fully creatively receptive. I frustrate myself often that the good girl in me obediently attempts to read the text, but seldom fully takes it in, because I resent what I feel Im being made to do. However, I think there is an element of FOMO happening for me; what if I miss out on some crucial bit of information? The White Cube do offer a pamphlet, which I tend to take away with me and read afterwards, should I feel the need to know more. A good compromise, I feel, as the gallery might be in danger of appearing too elite, if it did not offer something to satisfy a diversity of visitors.

</p><p>I spent an enjoyable period of time volunteering as front of house staff at a small independent gallery and came to really appreciate the work that goes into making an exhibition. It is such a fine balance to achieve to ensure the artist and their work is represented as they would wish, and that it also responds to the needs of the gallerys visitors. This gallery was in a popular tourist spot and so it attracted a diverse mix of visitors, including many school groups and people from around the world. Some visited to be educated, some because they were artists, others purely to pass the time, or because their mother or father made them do something cultural on their visit to London. So many people to please! I think this experience gave me some insight into how and why certain decisions are made, as the gallery is essentially a business and it has to make decisions about who it seeks to attract and the needs of this clientele. So, with this insider knowledge, I understood that sometimes we have to take and appreciate the bits we like and try and tolerate the rest. These are public spaces and so we do need to share.

</p><p>Thinking on this subject, I began to muse on my own artwork. What did it communicate to the world? Was it insulting or offensive in any way, and how would I want it to be seen? I am a big fan of Tracy Emin; but I havent always been, because I initially thought her work incredibly self-indulgent and narcissistic and this really bothered me. Yet here was a female artist taking a bold step into a patriarchal establishment and telling the world something of what it was like to be a woman. So, was I not actually subscribing to a deeply flawed status quo and should I not have been truly grateful to Emin for opening my eyes? And yes, sometimes it really is necessary to communicate ideas with the subtlety of a sledgehammer when they really do need to be heard and seen!  She was sharing a deeply personal story and I have later come to appreciate this and some of its more subtle nuance, once I dropped my guard. I am so grateful, because in telling her story, she tells some of mine too. Emin and those of her ilk have enabled me, as an artist, to be bold enough to work autobiographically, without shame, because I know the value of how art serves to reconnect us with one another, telling stories that we recognise, so we know we are not alone, in what can feel like an increasingly lonely world. Art rails against capitalist culture in this way and that is something to be applauded. No wonder artists are often so undermined and diminished. So, perhaps, in its way, I do hope that my work might offend and insult occasionally, as I certainly tell a story that many may find unpalatable.

</p><p>I often fantasise about exhibitions of my work that I would like to have; how I would wish each piece to be seen. I do think it a terrible shame that, for emerging artists, it is so hard/almost impossible to obtain spaces to exhibit in. How are any of us ever meant to be seen? Will we ever be seen other than on the flooded market that is Instagram? The truth is, many great artists are never given the exposure they deserve, which feels like something that has not changed in the art world for far too many years. Just think of Van Gogh, he was not alone in his plight. It does seem that it remains a case of who you know, how much money you have and more recently, what minority group is it currently fashionable to be making some pretence at sympathising with (perhaps I am cynical). Artists should surely be recognised on individual merit, which has nothing to do with the colour of their skin, their gender of the state of their mental health. I find this so patronising to the very real struggles of marginalised groups and seems to only serve to highlight difference and reinforce divisions. Perhaps I am being too idealistic though, but surely idealism is how we continue to strive to progress to be something better and is that not the artists role also?

</p><p>So, should art be offensive and insulting? Yes, I think that is part of its role, but to define it purely as such would be far too narrow and insulting, because it does so much more than that. The best art, for me, depicts humanity and the world, with all its facets and guises. It connects, educates and inspires and is a catalyst for the possibility of positive change in the individual, but also in society and even globally. This can be achieved subtly or forcefully, we are all different and will respond in our own unique way. There is no right or wrong.


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<p style="font-size:12px font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva, sans-serif;">As a freelance artist, I occasionally get commissioned to do a specific piece of work. Recently my pop art portraits, which would be recognised as of a similar ilk to those of Any Warhol, have been popular. These portraits are made by layering a screen-printed stencil, which is created from a chosen photo, on top of a gestural/abstract monoprint. Until now, these portraits have been of individual sitters, but I was recently commissioned to do a double portrait, you may recognise the subjects. On this occasion, the photograph was also taken by me, but that doesn&rsquo;t necessarily need to be the case. As we well know, through generations, borrowed images have been reinterpreted and given new life by a wealth and broad range of artists (see previous blog).</p>
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<p style="font-size:12px font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva, sans-serif;">Of course, an artist cannot survive on fresh air and sunshine alone, so the awkward matter of price needs to be discussed and ideally this should take place early on. This is made even more awkward when commissioned by a friend, as mates&rsquo; rates would be possibly applied and, in this instance, it was my choice to do just that. I always consult other artists when deciding on price and I am advised to take a variety of things into account. For a start, how many hours will the piece take to make? This can be hard to judge sometimes, so in that case; what is my hourly rate? Surely a starting point would be to ask for a living wage, at the very least. I have also been advised to consider whether the works are one offs, or, as with some printmaking, could further prints be made and sold? Also, what size is the print and what level of skill is involved? I think it also important to take into account the level of experience the artist has. Then, lastly, there is the cost of the materials, art materials do not come cheap! As you can see, there&rsquo;s so much to think about!</p>
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<p style="font-size:12px font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva, sans-serif;">As this commission is for friends, I knew I didn&rsquo;t want to ask this much, or (rightly or wrongly) would feel embarrassed to, so I asked for &pound;150 per portrait. However, to my dismay, this news was not received well, as the buyer couldn&rsquo;t understand how these original artworks could be worth this amount. I felt a bit taken aback, initially, as I knew I had already made a considerable discount. To be honest, I felt a bit pissed off and disinclined to pursue this piece of work, which would be taking considerable time from my schedule, preventing me from getting other work done. I am currently working on a personal project, as I am hoping to begin an Art Therapy MA, in the near future and this is requiring a certain kind of process and commitment that needs to be somewhat absorbing.</p>
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<p style="font-size:12px font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva, sans-serif;">Eventually, I felt bad for my initial response and ashamed that I had valued myself to such a degree. I suffer from anxiety and depression, so it doesn&rsquo;t take much for my self esteem to take a hit. Surely, I thought, I should be giving my artwork away, particularly to friends who I care about a great deal. Surely friendship is more important than money? Yet, we come back to the question of, yes but; what am I supposed to live on? And what about my years of training and experience as an artist? Doesn&rsquo;t that have some value? So many artist friends I know face the same dilemmas. Often, they are so flattered that somebody likes their work enough to want to pay for it, they almost end up giving it away. There is a notion that, perhaps, it is easy for an artist to do a piece of work, that it is what we live and breathe and so little effort is required and that it is almost a favour to us for someone to show any interest. I would say that the opposite is true; when I work I put all of myself into it and selling art is like letting go of part of me. I reflect on what I recently had to pay a plumber for laying new gas pipes; &pound;700 for a morning's work! He worked hard, there&rsquo;s no doubt, but I don&rsquo;t feel he necessarily threw his heart and soul into it. Maybe I&rsquo;m wrong.</p>
<p style="font-size:12px font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva, sans-serif;">Are plumbers of more value than artists? Do we need artists less than we need plumbers? I urge you to take a look around yourself, where you are seated right now and take stock of everything an artist would have had a hand in creating. Just look and think about it. I did, in fact, have this conversation with my 6-year-old nephew recently. He kept asking me what I did for work and found it hard to accept that being an artist qualified as a job. He insisted that true work involved an awful lot of emailing and that he would need to take me in hand and ensure I am sending my fair share of emails to ensure I earned my keep (in truth, I do a lot of emailing anyway, but this was hard to explain). The hours he demanded I work were quite extraordinary and toilet breaks were unheard of. However, I was overjoyed to learn that in a conversation he later had with his parents about what he wanted to do when he grew up, he said that he wanted to be an artist. I felt very proud. I was also encouraged to hear that at a recent art fair at Core Arts in Hackney, an organisation that promotes artists who suffer with their mental health, some proper cash was being deservedly paid for some truly beautiful creations. May this happen again and again, many times, henceforth! Also. a friend and buyer of art recently commented to me that she feels awkward when an artist undersells themselves and will always pay what she believes to be the true value of the work.</p>
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<p style="font-size:12px font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva, sans-serif;">I think we artists do ourselves no favours by underselling ourselves far too often, so it&rsquo;s no surprise that this has become expected of us now. That is unless we happen to have been spotted by the likes of Charles Saatchi, but this is rare! Just think, every time an artist undersells themselves, they put every other artist in a compromised position and maintain the myth that art is not work. Is there an issue with the idea that artists enjoy their work and so didn&rsquo;t require paying as much? Is it a crime to enjoy one&rsquo;s work? I hope not! Also, I don&rsquo;t necessarily always enjoy it. There are aspects that I find agonising and commissions are not necessarily what I would personally feel inspired to do and so there is additional effort required to get myself motivated and excited about what I&rsquo;m working on, in order to get the best results.</p>
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              <p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="CENTER"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif;"><span style="font-size: large;"><u><strong>How To make your own Pop Art Portrait</strong></u></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="CENTER"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif;"><span style="font-size: large;"><u><strong>By Naomi Elfred-Ross</strong></u></span></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="JUSTIFY"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">I am really enjoying exploring the world of screen printing right now, as it is a relatively new process for me to use, but hugely rewarding. Having recently completed a commission for a double portrait of Bruce and Kathryn, and as the process becomes much clearer in my mind, I thought I would take the opportunity to share with you how to do it.</span></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="JUSTIFY"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">The portraits I make are in the style of Any Warhol&rsquo;s work, although he used photographic screen printing. This way, Warhol&rsquo;s image could be printed over and over, appealing to his interest in societal and consumerist mass consumption. This is not possible for me, as I don&rsquo;t have access to the necessary facilities, so my approach is through stencil making; derived from a photograph. This is, of course, much more time consuming, but there is something to be said for the hand made element of my prints. Each image is a one off and the life of the stencil only lasts as long as the run of prints. The process I use it to layer a monotone stencilled screen print on top of a mono screen print, which adds colour. These approaches have a vibrantly contrasting effect.</span></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="JUSTIFY"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">-The first part of the process is to select the image you want to work with. It can be helpful to edit your photograph, making it a high contrast black and white and printing it on normal photocopy paper, to the desired scale. Ensure you keep a colour copy too, to help you when considering the colours you use for the background monoprint. Ensure, also, that you have duplicate copies of the black and white image.</span></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="JUSTIFY"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">-The stencil making involves marking the black areas in the image, which need to be removed, in order to allow the ink to come through and take an impression. A tippex pen can be helpful in clarifying the remaining white parts, so the stencil remains intact, as one piece. Consider what parts of the image are important in maintaining the integrity of the image, as you don&rsquo;t want to overcomplicate things. Remember, less is more.</span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="JUSTIFY">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="https://citizenwangstudio.com/assets/img/popart/How-to-make-your-own-Pop-Art-portrait-1.jpg" width="300" height="225" />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<img style="font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Open Sans', 'Helvetica Neue', sans-serif;" src="https://citizenwangstudio.com/assets/img/popart/How-to-make-your-own-Pop-Art-portrait-2.jpg" width="300" height="224" /></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="JUSTIFY"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">-Using a scalpel, cut out the black areas, which you have marked. This is the tricky and time-consuming bit, but I promise you, it does pay off. You can check on it&rsquo;s progress, by turning it over and laying it onto a dark background. Don&rsquo;t worry if there is the odd mistake, masking tape repairs are perfectly acceptable.</span></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="JUSTIFY"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">-It is at this stage, or during this process, that I create my mono print backgrounds. It&rsquo;s an opportunity to step back from the intensity of stencil making and have some fun. I also have more of a feel for the image, at this point and feel better equipped to select the colours I want to use.</span></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="JUSTIFY"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">-The inks are made up of acrylic paint and printing medium, which either come ready mixed, or can be made up. Select/mix your colours, ready to use.</span></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="JUSTIFY"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">-Prepare your screen by using brown tape to create an aperture, which is fractionally smaller than the size of your image. Ensure that the tape is placed as smoothly as possible.</span></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="JUSTIFY"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">-Create a registration of the position of the print by marking a corner and side of your paper, with tape, on the screen bed. Or, this can be done by eye, if you feel confident.</span></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="JUSTIFY"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">-Using these guides, put your paper in place.</span></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="JUSTIFY"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">-It may be helpful to place a copy of your image under the screen and then propping the screen up slightly, paint directly onto the screen. It&rsquo;s important work quite quickly, as acrylic paint dries fast. This is helpful as it enables a more gestural and spontaneous result. Make sure you fill the space. No room for too much perfectionism!</span></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="JUSTIFY"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif; font-size: large;">-Lower the screen, then adding a line of medium, to cover the squeegee, pull the squeegee from the top of the screen to the bottom, then lift the screen and you have your mono print.</span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="JUSTIFY"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">-Position a fresh piece of paper and repeat the process, adding new colours, as desired.</span></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="JUSTIFY"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">-Once you have as many prints as you want; wash the screen thoroughly, saving any remaining ink and set the prints aside to dry. They need to be completely dry to add the stencil.</span></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="JUSTIFY"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">-Once your stencil is ready, position it on acetate, on the screen bed, so it shows through the aperture on the screen. Once in place, rest the screen on top.</span></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="JUSTIFY"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">-Select your ink colour and use a spatula to place a good amount on the top end of the screen, adding a row of medium.</span></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="JUSTIFY"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">-Then, using your squeegee, pull the ink from top to bottom. This can be done twice, to ensure clarity. Lift the screen and &lsquo;flood&rsquo; it, pushing the ink back to the top.</span></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="JUSTIFY"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">-You should be left with an impression of your image on your stencil, which you can use as a registration, helping you position your prints, as you want the end result to appear. The stencil will have attached itself to the screen, so just make sure all the fiddly bits are in position.</span></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="JUSTIFY"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">-Carefully position your first mono print beneath the registration, then lift the acetate and lower the screen.</span></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="JUSTIFY"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">-Place your squeegee in the ink, at the top of the screen, making sure it is covered and push down, while pulling the ink towards you.</span></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="JUSTIFY"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif; font-size: large;">-Gently lift the screen and flood it. Your print will be revealed and set aside to dry, ready for the next. Make sure there is always plenty of ink for each print. This part should be the dopamine hit, as the results are always so striking.</span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="JUSTIFY"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">-Once you have completed your run of prints, lay them flat and allow them to dry. Then, thoroughly clean your screen and equipment.</span></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; direction: ltr; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" align="JUSTIFY"><span style="font-family: Arial, serif;"><span style="font-size: large;">-You are now the proud owner of your very own Pop Art portrait! Have fun!!</span></span></p>
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              <p>Dungeness, an Essential Pilgrimage for the Creative Mind&nbsp;</p>
<p>By Naomi Elfred-Ross&nbsp;</p>
<p>I recently visited Dungeness, which is on the Kent coast. I arrived, travelling through the salt marshes, by miniature steam train, courtesy of the Romney, Hythe and Dymchurch railway, which immediately created a sense of otherworldliness and definite charm. Then, on arriving, it felt like stepping into another country, or even another plane. To some; a fairy tale, and yet to others; possibly a surreal, post-apocalyptic nightmare. Every visitor has their own unique take.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>Clambering up the brow of the shingle headland, revealing the stark, shimmering form of the Nuclear Power Station, with nothing but a big, blue sky, as a backdrop; I am put in mind of the planet Tatooine from Star Wars. Some have described the wild and desolate landscape of Dungeness as desert, but this wouldn&rsquo;t be accurate as it rains too much! However, it is not typically recognisable as British. One thing seems to be clear, it is a place that you will either love or hate. For example, I think it takes a creative mind to find the dominating presence of a nuclear power station as beautiful, and yet it is evident that an artist&rsquo;s community is flourishing there. On my visit, I had the opportunity to explore some of the local artists&rsquo; studios, in their timber hut, beach homes, which were open to the public. The surrounding landscape had clearly served as a constant source in inspiration and I could see why.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
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<p>&nbsp;You may well be familiar with artist and Gay rights activist, Derek Jarman, who spent the latter years of his life, with his partner, in a blackened beach shack, with sunny yellow window frames; Prospect Cottage. Having moved from the hustle and bustle of London&rsquo;s Soho, life would have been quite different for Jarman. However, at this stage in his life, he had been suffering with AIDS and was, in fact, one of the first (well known) people to have spoken out publicly about it. This was an extremely brave thing to do, at a time when there was so much controversy and prejudice regarding the disease and the homosexual community had been cruelly ostracised by society. However, Jarman was known for his openness and honesty in all matters and on this occasion, his candidness did much to educate a deeply unjust society, which had been fed lies by politicians and the tabloid press.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
<p>A medium Jarman often used to express his thoughts and opinions is film. Jarman is, perhaps, best known for his film making. Although he had said of himself, that he had no expertise in this area and worked in a vary unorthodox way; identifying more as a painter. I think this was part of the appeal though and is why they have since assumed a sort of cult like status. One of Jarman&rsquo;s films, &lsquo;Blue&rsquo; was filmed while he lived at Prospect Cottage and was dying from AIDS related illness. Having partially lost his sight, his vision was often interrupted by a blue light and so &lsquo;Blue&rsquo; the film, is a static shot of the colour blue, with a voiceover and musical soundtrack. The voiceover consisted of diaristic and poetic text, where Jarman talks about his illness and impending death. Watching the film, I feel deeply moved that amidst so much suffering, he was still able to create something so important, powerful and beautiful.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
<p>The colour blue feels so appropriate to me, after my recent visit, as I feel I have the same colour tattooed onto my mind, as though a light has come on, which seems to have sparked a new direction in my creative pursuits and a new motivation. I often feel uncertain of my identity as an artist, and yet I have come away with a strengthened sense of my creative identity. I feel, having visited, that some much-needed space has opened in my generally chaotic mind, allowing new possibilities. Dungeness is, indeed, very open and some might say barren. It is true that not much grows there, except the most determined and hardy plants, such as viper&rsquo;s-bugloss and sea kale and those so determinedly and careful teded by the Dungeness community. Otherwise, what can be found on the expansive shingle beach are various items that have washed ashore, there is a wealth of interesting maritime artefacts amongst these and sun bleached driftwood, to excite the imagination. These were all put to good use in Jarman&rsquo;s well known and frequently visited garden, in which he lovingly tended a variety of hostile environment hardy plants. These were juxtaposed with playful sculptural forms, comprising of what treasure he had picked up on the shore.&nbsp;</p>
<p>These sculptures are positioned in such a way that give the garden and surrounding landscape a new sense of context and way of seeing and I had a field day experimenting with different compositions, on my cameraphone. I was intending to make use of these images, when I returned to London, so I could keep the Dungeness experience alive in my mind, until I returned and I definitely will. I have even suggested to my husband that we move there, but he thinks, perhaps sensibly, that the winter would be rather intense, as there is no shelter from the elements. He&rsquo;s probably right, but life feels too short to be caught up too much with being sensible.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>It seems interesting and perhaps not accidental that Jarman had been drawn to such a terrain of apparent hostility, when his experience of broader society had been along similar lines and yet here, he had the opportunity to find a unique place, in which he could belong and become part of his surroundings. Nothing living at Dungeness is there without resilience, as Jarman write&rsquo;s in Modern Nature:&nbsp;</p>
<p>&ldquo;I always thought of foxglove as a flower of the woods-deep in the shade, beloved of the bumble bees and little people. But the foxgloves of the Ness are quite a different breed. Strident purple in the yellow bloom, they stand exposed to the wind and blistering sunshine, as rigid as guardsmen on parade.&rdquo;&nbsp;</p>
<p>At &lsquo;the Ness&rsquo; there is no interest in looking to another with any petty intention such as to impose any judgement. All that lives is equal in its plight to survive, a place for misfits and outsiders. Perhaps, feeling as I often do, marginalised because of my mental health, this is something I can relate to and part of Dungeness&rsquo; allure.&nbsp;</p>
<p>For the artist; this surreal, open space seems to offer up a blank canvas, in which the creative mind can roam. There seems to be a freedom that I now know I was seriously lacking, cooped up in my London suburb home. In fact, since returning I realise just how unhealthy city living has become for me. I feel utterly intolerant of the noise, lack of space and general feeling of sensory overload. Now, all I need is to recall the immense sense of freedom I felt, as I stood atop of the old lighthouse, or at the edge of the expansive shoreline to know that it is possible to feel differently and that really keeps me going.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>Dungeness and Prospect cottage has become a pilgrimage spot for the LGBTQIA community, artists, nature lovers and garden enthusiasts alike. It seems so apt that an artist who opened his doors and his heart to his friends and the wider community, can be remembered as his home and garden is opened up to the public and artists, thanks to funding raised by Art Fund. This ensures that his spirit, his love of nature, creativity and people should be able to live on for generations to come. Perhaps one day, in the future, I might be lucky enough to have an artist&rsquo;s residency there, it feels unlikely, but in my emboldened sense of identity as an artist, I am going to permit myself to dream.&nbsp;</p>
<p><img src="https://citizenwangstudio.com/assets/img/dungeness/dungeness9.jpg" width="289" height="393" /></p>
<p>(Screen print by Naomi Elfred-Ross. July 2022)&nbsp;</p>

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              <p class="western" style="font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif;">Money and Art</span></p>
<p class="western" style="font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif;"><span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">PAY ARTISTS A LIVING WAGE.</span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif;"> </span></p>
<p class="western" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; ">From the 1960&rsquo;s to the 1980&rsquo;s, Unemployment Benefit and a relaxed Benefit Fraud Dept was considered the Living Wage for Musicians , out of work Actors and Artists. Britain led the world in Fringe Theatre Pop Music and Fine Art.</span></p>
<p class="western" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2;"><span style=" font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 11pt;">I studied Fine Art for a short while in 1982 and had long conversations with my Tutor, Gillian Ingham, an Abstract Expressionist Artist of the Wapping Group. Quite apart from having a deep feeling for and experience of Fine Art, she would tell me of her experiences as a house builder and renovator. The time she was at the top of the scaffolding and felt the scaffolding pitch and yaw from the weight of all the roof tiles that her team had failed to lower to the ground. Her Building and Fine Art careers ran concurrently. Gillian Ingham continues to exhibit and teach in 2022.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif;"> </span></p>
<p class="western" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Is it the survival of the most Enterprising Fine Artist?&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p class="western" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2;"><span style=" font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">WHAT IS TOP VALUE FINE ART?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif;"> </span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; border: none; padding: 0cm; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; widows: 2; orphans: 2;"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif;"> <span style="font-family: Times New Roman, serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">I was asked this question by a good friend, &ldquo;Do you agree that top value fine art is created by people who started poor?&ldquo;</span></span></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">The Eternal Question, &ldquo;What is Art&rdquo;&nbsp;&nbsp;is now engorged by &ldquo;What is Top Value Fine Art&rdquo;.</span></p>
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<p class="western" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">The late Art Critic Peter Fuller felt that Fine Art should bring the viewer closer to God.</span></p>
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<p class="western" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">The late Art Critic, Brian Sewell felt that Godhead could be found by singlehandedly satisfying a barracks full of horny Guardsmen.</span></p>
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<p class="western" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">The late Sir Francis Bacon found that being occasionally thrown through a plate glass door by his Soldier lover, thereby mutilating his face, was the basis for many of his greatest &ldquo;Top Value&rdquo; paintings.</span></p>
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<p class="western" style="widows: 2; orphans: 2;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Tintoretto, painted pro bono for many aristocratic families in order to gain a paid commission (or not). During a competition to win the commission for a prestigious Guild building. He did not submit sketches, but installed his own painted canvas on the oval ceiling of the building, having gained the measurements secretly (and no doubt expensively) from the janitor. He also paid for the inevitable scaffolding and skilled members of his studio. The Guild Elders decided to keep his &ldquo;erection&rdquo; and cancelled the competition.</span></p>
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<p><u><strong>The Anxious Artist </strong></u></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;><u><strong>The Gallery Visit.</strong></u></p>
<p><u><strong>21/07/22</strong></u></p>
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<p>Yesterday morning, as I lay in my bed, trying to rouse myself, I was in my usual state of indecision about how to spend the day. I tend to function better if I have definite things scheduled into my day, but I am trying to learn how to venture into the unknown and panic inducing territory of unstructured time.</p>
<p>I had an idea that I really wanted to visit the Lucian Freud exhibition, at the Freud Museum, a place so familiar to me from when I worked as a community mental health nurse at the Tavistock Centre, which is very close by. We even had the odd training day there, so there was a feeling of apprehension of treading the path of, what felt like, a former life.</p>
<p>The other obstacle, which felt like the real test, was the challenge of getting myself there. It is just a short train ride and a walk, but since all things Covid, getting public transport has been extremely difficult for me. I feel really frustrated about this, as getting out and about was one thing I could do with relative ease before. Now, there is a heady cocktail of anxiety that doesn&rsquo;t seem as straightforward as a fear of catching the virus, although this is in the mix, but more the knock-on effect of what that would mean in terms of having to isolate myself and cut myself off from the supports systems I depend on. Additionally, there is the sense of responsibility towards those more vulnerable than I am. What is more and probably most significantly, I am also haunted by regular flashbacks of the image of my mother dying from the virus, as I watched helplessly, through my cracked phone screen. I watch others as they return to &lsquo;normal&rsquo; life with wonder, in my FFP3 mask. In many ways, I remain paralysed, despite regular efforts to keep pushing myself forwards regardless, even though my world feels like it&rsquo;s been turned upside-down.</p>
<p>So, I was feeling quite a lot of anxiety, at the thought of the journey to the Freud Museum. However, having once been a CBT therapist, I knew that the avoidance of something only serves to confirm and enhance the fear. If I am to rewire myself, I need to act as though there is nothing to be afraid of. I must take the hand of that frightened child and show her that she is allowed to live her life. It isn&rsquo;t that I haven&rsquo;t used trains during the pandemic, but it never feels at all easy. So, I decided to lay down the gauntlet and challenge myself to do this. No, this journey was not essential, but I needed to do this for myself, to get some inspiration for my own practice and because I wanted to have something to share in this blog!</p>
<p>Lucien Freud has always been a favourite artist of mine. I even wrote my dissertation about his work for my art degree, way back in 1999. I was exploring artists who dealt with the theme of identity in their work. There is something very alive and almost brutally honest about his portraits. Freud strips his sitters, be they clad or nude and exposes the vulnerability that we all share, but do our best to pretend otherwise. It is evident that Freud spends a good deal of time getting to know and really considering his subject, scrutinising them in such a way that is not dissimilar to the work of his grandfather Sigmund. For this reason, my experience of viewing a Freud portrait, is rather voyeuristic, I can&rsquo;t honestly say it is a comfortable experience and yet I feel a sense of privilege that I am permitted to have a glimpse into the world of another human being, facilitated by the Freud. We are also, of course, being invited into the inner world of the artist, as what Freud paints evidently holds great meaning for him and he has spoken of his work as being autobiographical. I wonder what artist could say otherwise? The opportunity for such an insight into the lived experience of the other reminds me of humbling experience of my work, as a nurse, when a young person would sit with me and trust me enough to tentatively take steps towards exposing their pain, sometimes for the first time.</p>
<p>As these thought&rsquo;s passed through my mind, I felt enough motivation to make the trip to the exhibition and allowed myself to feel a real sense of pride. I was not only meeting the challenge, but I was also taking care of myself, which is something I find hard to do. As is often the case with anxiety, the anticipation of the journey caused me to feel more anxious than the actual journey itself. As I write this, 24 hours later, I cannot believe what I put myself though on a regular basis when it is so unnecessary. However, I also know that beating myself up about it only makes things worse. For me, confronting this particular fear is as anxiety inducing as jumping out of an aeroplane might be for another. In fact, sometimes I think I would cope better with the latter! So, I went through the motions which are normally involved in getting out of the house, a painstakingly long and protracted process (something that needs work). Then, putting on a favourite summer frock and painting on my best face, ready to face the world. At this stage, I am already pretty exhausted, purely because of the mental turmoil.</p>
<p>Reader; I made it! I was treading the boards of Sigmund Freud&rsquo;s former London home. Having visited the museum a number of times, I was keen to head straight to the Lucien Freud exhibition, which was appropriately focused on his early years and family life, allowing a glimpse into the formative experiences and relationships, which shaped him as an artist. I was lucky enough to have the space largely to myself, which meant I was really able to linger and absorb the work and even though the exhibition was small, there was plenty to appreciate and digest.</p>
<p>Some of Freuds&rsquo; childhood drawings and illustrated letters were included in the exhibition and it was no surprise to discover he had a rich inner world and creative mind from a young age. Into adulthood, the paintings, drawings and etchings on display were all of friends and family members and so, inevitably, each work was imbued with rich and multiple layers of meaning. I was struck by the time spent and rich, generous texture of paint, almost becoming sculptural, which Freud used, particularly on his subjects&rsquo; faces. There was a strong sense of intense observation and immense emotion invested with each stroke.</p>
<p>I was interested to learn of Freud&rsquo;s complex relationship with his parents, particularly with his mother, who he had felt suffocated by, as she had placed him on a pedestal. I know from experience that this is a precarious place to inhabit. Then there was is father, who he didn&rsquo;t connect with and had experienced as controlling. As a means of escape from this intensity, he threw himself into art from a young age and into his passion for horses, which brought him a sense of freedom desperately needed. The exhibition includes a rare sculpture of a horse, made by Freud. It is, perhaps, no surprise, that later in life his relationship with women was so complex.</p>
<p>Freud&rsquo;s relationship with his mother improved as she got older and became less domineering, after the death of Freud&rsquo;s father. She then became a subject for many of his portraits. One of which, an etching, was on display at the exhibition. I recalled how I had frequently felt the desire to do portraits of my own mother. When approaching this urge, I always became too emotionally overwhelmed to be able to even approach making a start. Such complex emotions arise just thinking about it. Several times, since my mother&rsquo;s death, I have considered doing a portrait of her, but as I type these words, I feel my stomach is in knots at the idea. Writing and illustrating &lsquo;Goodbye Mama Cat&rsquo; felt like a less direct approach and somehow more bearable. The characters I created for the book were cats and this established a sufficient level of emotional detachment. Knowing this, I can fully appreciate exactly what Freud had invested in taking this step himself, the courage of such an emotional investment is immense. I thought that this was evident in the etching on display, with its expressive mark making and evident attention to capturing mood both of his sitter and of himself.</p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">(&lsquo;The Painters&rsquo; Mother&rsquo; 1982, etching by Lucien Freud)</span></p>
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<p>Other paintings on display brought alive the development of his family and other important relationships, as they evolved through his 60-year career. The exhibition also included Freuds love of books, perhaps another means of escape from the intensity of some of those relationships and the act of portrait painting, as well as for inspiration. This was something I very much related to, as my home would not feel like my own if it were without books. This is equally important as having a feline presence.</p>
<p>I am so glad that I confronted my anxiety by going to this creatively nourishing and fascinating exhibition. I now intend to keep gently nudging myself to do more of the same. I hope that gradually and over time, this will get much easier and that gradually the traumatic image that I find so hard to let go of will gently fade, as I allow my mum to rest in peace. Who knows in which direction my creative and life journey will take me then.</p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">(Illustration taken from &lsquo;Goodbye Mama Cat&rsquo; by Naomi Elfred-Ross)</span></p>
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              <p>I watched this for the first time 4 years after its release and as a drag queen who knows some Crazy Rich Singaporeans in real life, I found it awful on many levels. I won&rsquo;t watch this again.&nbsp; It is now on my list of movies that I will turn off even if there is nothing else whatsoever to watch.&nbsp; Trying to be positive, the depictions of lavishness were good at times but the story, cast and messages combined to make this a terrible ordeal.</p>
<p>Let us start with the fact that the story is classic Cinderella where rich boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy wins girl back &ndash; all of which I saw coming a mile off. I guess there is an argument that some of the charm of these rom coms is that we see these clues and enjoy watching it play out.&nbsp; Sadly that is not what I find enjoyable &ndash; I like at least something unexpected.&nbsp; The film&rsquo;s obvious plot is so signposted for even the blindest and unaware film watchers out there, that I became sure there was going to be a twist because surely nothing could be this obvious.&nbsp; But twist came there none. Something clever? Route-1-0-1 point 2? Didn&rsquo;t happen. Even a mole rat from Papua New Guinea who had never seen a film before would be able to guess the ending after the set up.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
<p>Which brings me to the set up before the set up. This is by far the worst bit of the film.&nbsp; I first decided to watch the film on a flight into Singapore and could not make it past the pre-Singapore prologue.&nbsp; This prologue comes before the film gets to Singapore, the Gateway to the East, where the action in this inexplicably popular film takes place. The important moment in this prologue, designed to hook people in and explain how rich, Crazy Rich even, these people are, is when some old fashioned snobby white employees in a central London hotel in the 80s are surprised to learn that the helpless and soaked-through Chinese family they have been less than warm towards are, in fact, the new owners of the hotel and their new de facto bosses.&nbsp; This again left me cold because I saw it coming.&nbsp; Also, does anyone realise that the hotel manager (who did not get a comeuppance incidentally, except for loss of face &ndash; a Chinese punishment but not much of one for an Englishman) and staff treated the Chinese family with the very same snobbery and disdain that the same Chinese family are surrounded by, Chinese-style, in the rest of the story? In the rest of the film, set in modern day post-colonial Singapore, this Chinese snobbery and disdain runs deeply and becomes even quite threatening, going so far as to issue a Corleone / Godfather-style &lsquo;horse head in the bed&rsquo; warning (in this case, a gutted fish in the bed with written message), meted out to the innocent foreign person, Rachel, who is intruding into this world uninvited and unwelcome.&nbsp; What&rsquo;s the difference?</p>
<p>The Cinderella part of the story starts with a good looking cis hetero East Asian couple, one of whom, the guy Nick, is Crazy Rich, unbeknownst to the other, Rachel (Constance Wu).&nbsp; Rachel is very successful &ndash; and this is important&hellip; successful on merit &ndash; and is the youngest Professor of Economics at NYU.&nbsp; But she is not rich.&nbsp; Well off, I guess.&nbsp; But Crazy Rich?&nbsp; No.&nbsp; I must have missed what Nick does for a living, but he is also similarly successful and more importantly he is good looking, charming and in love with Rachel.&nbsp; He also has a British accent, explained by the fact he went to an English boarding school.</p>
<p>And this annoyed me a lot.&nbsp; Singaporeans are very proud of Singapore and all its quirks, the biggest quirk being its unique accent.&nbsp; I know Singaporeans who went to school in England (and ones who went to US schools too) and they do talk with less of a pronounced Singaporean accent in real life &ndash; but they all CAN speak the accent when they want AND they often (if not always) throw in the accent&rsquo;s idiosyncrasies, whether they are talking in RP, standard American or not.&nbsp; Let&rsquo;s go-lah! Eat-lah! Anything at all-lah!&nbsp; They will often use a verb when an answer is begged.&nbsp; &ldquo;Can we go to the film?&rdquo; will elicit the answer &ldquo;Can!&rdquo; (or &ldquo;cannot&rdquo;!) more often than a simple yes or no.&nbsp; But can we see a single sign of this lovely and unique eccentricity in the entirely of the film? Cannot!&nbsp; The reason for this (and I know this from experience) is because it is an extremely hard accent to mimic and master.&nbsp; I am not aware of any single non Singaporean/Malaysian who has mastered this accent.&nbsp; In fact, google it and you will find zero instances of any actor showing off their mastery of this unique and impossible accent.</p>
<p>And so, because the cast appear to be not Singaporean in the main (for commercial reasons?), we have a slew of US comedians and British actors playing the roles of Crazy Rich Singaporeans, not a single one of whom can do the accent.&nbsp; This is extremely annoying not to mention insulting to Singaporean actors, who are good and could do any of these roles the US/British actors play.&nbsp; To add insult to injury, this cast do not even try to make the accent work.&nbsp; In fact, it is a whole 27 minutes before we hear a very small side character, Mrs Goh, speak with anything like an authentic Singaporean accent. I understand in Singaporean cinemas, when she finally opened her mouth to say her line, Mrs Goh got a huge laugh and round of applause.&nbsp; A laugh of appreciation, I reckon, and relief and recognition that their country had not been completely edited out more than it being just a funny line (which it is not, so much).&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
<p>What made it even more difficult to suspend my disbelief in this cast of Crazy Rich Singaporean characters was that the &ldquo;normal&rdquo; East Asian Cinderella girl, Rachel, is an ABC; an American Born Chinese girl to a Singaporean mother, who we learn had to flee the island country back in the day to give birth, because of &hellip; plausible reasons.&nbsp; This is all fine, but I happened to have been told, many years before this film came out, that the actress playing the mother is, in real life, a genuinely Crazy Rich Singaporean.&nbsp; I am told that she is worth more than the rest of the cast put together in real life.&nbsp; This is not widely known (nor is it important in itself) but this inside knowledge only served to reinforce how badly cast this film felt to me in terms of authenticity.&nbsp; I don&rsquo;t want to get into net worth etc here and I am 100% not saying that a rich actor could not play this a poor character &ndash; in fact I thought the actress in question gave one of the better performances in the film - but I will try and explain my beef using an analogy:&nbsp;</p>
<p>Julia Louis-Dreyfus, regardless of her salary and wages as a TV star is independently family rich. Crazy Rich you could say. Her dad is a billionaire. Her acting ability is not in question, but if Julia Louis-Dreyfus were to be cast in the remake of Trading Places in the Eddie Murphy role as the poor person who suddenly becomes rich, it would grate.&nbsp; It would not make sense and the casting would work against the story.</p>
<p>Ditto here for me.&nbsp; In this film, we have non-Crazy Rich Singaporeans with bad accents, playing Singaporeans in Singapore and a real-life Crazy Rich Singaporean in New York, playing a poor person with a US accent.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
<p>I guess the one big defence of this casting (and the more grave offence to me, ignoring the accent), is that it makes the story easier to follow for Western audiences.&nbsp; And that is the ultimate defence.&nbsp; The film made &pound;240m!&nbsp; It was a great success!&nbsp; Shut the fuck up already about the accents and authenticity and who is really rich and who isn&rsquo;t!&nbsp; It&rsquo;s a film not a documentary!&nbsp; Use your imagination!</p>
<p>I understand this argument and by invoking it we are starting to enter the argument that Scorsese posed recently, that content is getting confused with cinema.&nbsp; From many perspectives, if a film makes &pound;240m then it is a success regardless of the content.&nbsp; I get it.&nbsp; &nbsp;But, of course, popularity does not a good film make.&nbsp; (Transformers?).&nbsp; Is this film really a good film because it is popular and made money?&nbsp; Not for this pretentious drag queen, it is not.&nbsp; At all.</p>
<p>I can&rsquo;t let this go.&nbsp; I found it annoying that Ken Jeong and the US comedians Ronny Chieng and Jimmy Yang could not do the Singaporean accent and instead each chose to do a generic East Asian accent.&nbsp; Why not just use their own accents?&nbsp; Is it nowadays acceptable for an East Asian actor to do the sort of faux generic accent that led Hank Azaria to quit doing Apu&rsquo;s voice in The Simpsons?&nbsp; At least in Apu&rsquo;s case, the character is likeable and Azaria&rsquo;s mastery of the accent is top notch.&nbsp; Not here, though!&nbsp; Not only are the various faux accents not compatible with one another and all over the place, the characters are all loathsome and terrible people. This does not put East Asians more into the Western Culture mainstream, as I have seen argued elsewhere, but the complete opposite.&nbsp; It reinforces marginalisation and otherness and tells westerners that yes, all these accents are different but the same!&nbsp; It&rsquo;s all unfathomable and it is all new!&nbsp; Korean is Singaporean! American Filipino is British Chinese! Who cares?!&nbsp; This film is arguably classic Orientalism, looking at a culture through the white lens of the West to create an Orient that does not actually exist but is jaw dropping and incredible.&nbsp; It is defined by its otherness to the world westerners know, and whether it is authentic or not is not important.</p>
<p>OK.&nbsp; I could go on about this but let us look at themes in the film itself.&nbsp; The story of the sister Astrid played by British actor Gemma Chan, and her marriage falling apart rung a few bells with me.&nbsp; The idea that obscene wealth undermines the value of working and earning a living is something that I myself have faced in my real life. I sympathise with the (relatively) poor husband in this case, not the wealthy wife Astrid, who is so rich and enjoys spending her money on frivolous things so much that she has to hide them from her &ldquo;sensitive&rdquo; husband so as not to undermine his sense of self and, ultimately, his masculinity and self of self.&nbsp; In my case, many years ago I was starting a relationship with a wealthy person. Very wealthy, not Crazy Rich by any means, but wealthy enough to buy two London houses in Stockwell, London and knock them together without any struggle.&nbsp; I realised soon that anything I cared about was rendered completely worthless in this relationship because I would earn less in a year of striving than they had spent without a second thought on new kitchen floorboards.&nbsp; Feeling like you bring value is a real thing.&nbsp; The question I had to ask myself in the 1990s, like the husband in the film&rsquo;s sub-plot, was: do I like the perks (which were pretty good materialistically) more than I like being my own person?&nbsp; For me the answer was no!&nbsp;</p>
<p>I therefore could understand the motivation of the husband in this film to cheat on his lovely and beautiful Crazy Rich wife.&nbsp; Sadly, this was little more of a side issue to the main film but this toe-dipping exploration into the idea that absolute limitless wealth corrupts morals is the one part of the film I found potentially interesting.&nbsp; In point of fact, we were supposed to feel sorry for Astrid not being able to flaunt her wealth frivolously, and did not spend much time at all on the more interesting question of why this might make people feel worthless and look to have an affair &ndash; the affair being about seizing power, not sex.&nbsp; The husband&rsquo;s story ended as he was cast out from the Crazy Rich environs. It is assumed that Charlie (the husband) would now be miserable having been banished from the Crazy Rich ivory tower, but the reality is that he would likely be much more happy not being surrounded by these terrible people, no longer feeling helpless and powerless and worthless.&nbsp; This would be an interesting look at Crazy Richness.&nbsp; But it is not what this film looked at</p>
<p>The story of Nick&rsquo;s mother, (whose casting was one of the few I had no problem with, Malaysian stalwart at the top of her game, Michelle Yeoh) who pits herself against her prospective daughter in law, Rachel, is more or less the main story.&nbsp; Mum is the reason Boy Loses Girl.&nbsp; Tiger mum, of course wants her son to do better, but this is a confused concept here.&nbsp; In Crazy Rich world, being better suited as hunky Nick&rsquo;s (a one dimensional Henry Golding) wife is to be 1. richer (as Rachel discovers on the hen&rsquo;s party).&nbsp; It is also to be 2. less American.&nbsp; This could be interesting too but again it somehow isn&rsquo;t.&nbsp; American here is shorthand for Western and Tiger Mum Eleanor says to be American is &ldquo;selfishness&rdquo; when contrasted with China&rsquo;s more pragmatic long game and respect for history and tradition.&nbsp; This is indeed interesting and can be seen to be at play in real life.&nbsp; Here in the film, though, it is inevitable that the battle between these two ideologies will be won by America!&nbsp; It&rsquo;s how Rom Coms work and you can see it coming a mile off.&nbsp; The traditional, long-game-respecting and respectful Chinese interpretation of what will work is, by the end of the film, seen as flawed by Eleanor as the penny drops that American selfishness is the true path to success and happiness.</p>
<p>(Success, let us not forget in the terms of the film, is to get to spend the rest of your life surrounded by twats and arseholes who look down on you, going shopping with jealous and spoiled vicious and callous Asians, who live cartoonish, empty and meaningless lives and having so much money that people feel worthless just by being married to it.)&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
<p>In real life, we see America in a quandary, polarised politically and fighting itself - all the while looking, without any answers, at China as it becomes more and more powerful in the world.&nbsp; While inflation is killing Western Europe and choking growth in US, China&rsquo;s inflation is unmoved.&nbsp; It doesn&rsquo;t matter why this is the case but the fact is the West has no answers to any of this and can only but watch as China solidifies its position as the number 1 economic powerhouse on the planet.</p>
<p>This theme, that Chinese pragmatism has a lot to learn from and will yield to Western ideals of love (aka short term selfishness) is the true fairy tale in this story.&nbsp; China is not #1 yet but there is nothing America can do to stop this from happening. In real life, Chinese Pragmatism is superior to American ideals and will prevail and yet we can still enjoy fairy tales.&nbsp; If that were the message of this film, I would applaud it.&nbsp; But it isn&rsquo;t.&nbsp; This is trite nonsense masquerading as insight.</p>
<p>Fairy tales have a place, but this particular one is over dressed and confused, the moral of its story is flawed and, in doing all this, it also reinforces racial and cultural stereotypes that are head shakingly retrograde. If this is what the West thinks the East is like, no wonder China is outwitting it at every turn geopolitically and economically.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
<p>Film verdict 3 out of 10.&nbsp; Lightweight. A few good jokes, good photography and lavish locations.&nbsp;</p>
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              <p>Thank You NHS</p>
<p>30th July 2022</p>
<p>By Naomi Elfred-Ross</p>
<p>The Anxious Artist</p>
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<p>Recently, when I was unpacking the shopping, I thought I would put on the radio. Unfortunately, my timing wasn't great and I was unlucky enough to tune into the news, which I would normally try to avoid. Usually I would try and catch myself and tune out asap, as there always tends to be something to worry about, especially in these &lsquo;interesting&rsquo; times. However, this time I was hooked and reeled in to the Tory leadership debate. I knew this wouldn&rsquo;t be good listen, but the masochist in me needed to hear the inevitable horror story. I think if someone suffers from an anxiety disorder, there is often a lot of free-floating anxiety that needs to find things to attach itself to and these days there is no shortage of options. I think there is a protective function somewhere in there; something about the need to be hyper vigilant to potential danger, because I would otherwise be vulnerable to the unexpected monsters which lurk in the shadows. This way of coping may have once been useful to me in my life, the only problem is, it&rsquo;s hard to shake off, now I no longer necessarily need it.</p>
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<p>The conversation found its way to public spending and a particular favourite candidate being very much in favour of making immediate cuts, in order to reduce taxes. I immediately started to panic, as my mind immediately jumped to the NHS, which is already being sabotaged in every way possible. Our precious health service, which has given so much love and care to so many people is disappearing before our eyes and it seems there is so little that can be done about it. Also, having worked for many years for the NHS, I feel additionally protective. I eventually forced myself to turn the radio off, as my stomach was now in knots and my mind was going to places of catastrophe and that helps nobody. I tried to focus on the task at hand and put the groceries away and get on with the day.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>I must have been reasonably successful, as it wasn&rsquo;t until the following day, when I was out for my daily walk, that my thoughts returned to the NHS. However, this time in a more constructive way. I had been listening to an audiobook by Evelyn Waugh, which was about an artist during wartime, whose son had been sent to the front. The protagonist felt a deep sense of helplessness, both in being unable to protect his son, but also in his role in the war effort in generally. He initially abandoned his work, feeling it was irrelevant given all that was happening in the world. However, latterly, having connected with other artists he began to reconsider and recognised the artists role at times of such conflict, in bringing life and hope to a world that otherwise feels as though it is on its knees, intent on destruction.</p>
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<p>As an artist, I have often wondered what value my work had. What was the point in the art that I make? It has always felt important that my work has some meaning and is in some way helpful to others. For me, art has the capacity explore and communicate some really challenging matters in such a way that it catches people unaware and so reaches them at a much deeper level, than if they were to be simply listening to the news. Art tends to be less threatening and so our defences are more likely to be down, as we are not expecting to be challenged in the same way and so we are more receptive. By contrast, the news is like a slap around the face.&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So, with all of the above in mind. I turned my thoughts to my local hospital, Whipps Cross, and the service it has given to me, over the years. Yes, there have been times when I have been frustrated and haven&rsquo;t necessarily had a good experience, nothing is perfect. However, the overwhelming feeling I have had, when I have been treated at the hospital and it&rsquo;s connected services, has been one where I have been treated incredibly well. I would say the struggles I have had, for the most part, have been related to cuts to funding. The building itself has often been criticised too and it is certainly in need of some love, and in the past, I have been tempted to think similarly. However, I now look at it quite differently.</p>
<p>The pop artist Corita Kent spoke about seeing beauty everywhere and that it is not just in nature and things generally thought of as aesthetically pleasing, but also in the everyday and mundane. She celebrated billboards, adverts and shops signs and showed that, when approached from a certain angle, we really are surrounded by beauty.&nbsp;</p>
<p><img src="https://citizenwangstudio.com/assets/img/nhs/nhs2.jpg" width="280" height="176" /></p>
<p>As an artist, I very much enjoy Corita&rsquo;s way of seeing the world. I had once heard that artists are able to think &lsquo;out of the box&rsquo; because they have been found to be deficient in dopamine. Of course, the downside is that that also makes us vulnerable to mental health struggles, but I appreciate the silver lining! In fact, I often manage my anxiety by switching to the more creative side of my brain and one of these ways is by using my camera phone to take pictures of the &lsquo;everyday&rsquo;, but from a new perspective. It&rsquo;s good fun! I decided, therefore, to pay a visit to Whipps Cross and take some arty snaps. I thought that I could then manipulate and edit the images, so I can make them into templates to create screen prints that would celebrate the beauty of our humble, yet magnificent health service.</p>
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<p>Arriving at the hospital, I felt rather self-conscious, as I had not come for an appointment and felt like I was trespassing or an imposter. Would people wonder what this strange person was doing and what on earth is she finding so interesting? This thought made me laugh to myself, as I imagined I had been categorised as &lsquo;weird arty sort&rsquo; pretty swiftly, for those paying attention, and I didn&rsquo;t mind in the least. I had fun really exploring the old buildings of the hospital and venturing down alleyways and paths that I had never explored in the past, probably because I was too focused whatever ailment I was needing tending to. I wondered at the history it held and the lives that had passed through its doors. I focus particularly on looking up, as this is where the architecture is truly revealed, without obstruction and I enjoyed the backdrop of a rather moody looking sky. I later discovered the hospital was originally an infirmary, during the Great War, caring for thousands of wounded servicemen. Then changing its name to Whipps Cross Hospital in 1917, to coincide with the visit of King George V and Mary Queen. Fascinating! I also explored the newer buildings, as we tend to dismiss modern architecture as ugly, which I don&rsquo;t think is necessarily true.&nbsp;</p>
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<p><img src="https://citizenwangstudio.com/assets/img/nhs/nhs3.jpg" width="281" height="211" /></p>
<p>However, what surprisingly really grabbed my attention were the signposts. The humble signposts are unsung heroes; we rely on them to help us find our way to our varied appointments and yet, until now, I&rsquo;m not sure I had truly paid attention to them. I enjoyed the multicolours that are used as an aide and the shapes they created, which framed and gave a new perspective to the surroundings. I took lots of snaps and then sat by the Hollow Ponds opposite (part of Epping Forest), and thoroughly enjoyed myself editing and creating interesting compositions.</p>
<p><img src="https://citizenwangstudio.com/assets/img/nhs/nhs4.jpg" width="281" height="224" /></p>
<p><img src="https://citizenwangstudio.com/assets/img/nhs/nhs5.jpg" width="281" height="271" /></p>
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<p>What will I do with them? Well, I&rsquo;m really enjoying my screen printing right now, so I will create some interesting templates, do a bit of layering, add colour&hellip; I&rsquo;m not entirely sure yet, but I&rsquo;m going to enjoy finding out and look forward to sharing the results with you all. No, I don&rsquo;t expect these prints will save the day, but they can be a message to whoever sees them that the NHS is loved and worth celebrating. The prints can be my message of thanks. Perhaps I can raise a few pennies to donate to Whipps Cross too, that would be a bonus! In the meantime, I get to feel a little less helpless and afraid, when I listen to the news. It is a drop in the ocean, but at least I&rsquo;m doing something.</p>
<p><img src="https://citizenwangstudio.com/assets/img/nhs/nhs6.jpg" width="281" height="222" /></p>
<p>Photographs taken by Naomi Elfred-Ross (2022)</p>
<p>Screenprints, made in the style of Corita Kent, by Naomi Elfred-Ross (2018)</p>
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              <h2>Bingo Mania by Debs</h2> 

<p>My life is a happy accident. I met Bruce as his cleaner via an agency and ended up as his web developer and SEO planner. This is how citizenwangstudio.com exists..</p> 

<p>In 2016 I won a small bingo Jackpot and took myself on holiday to Jamaica. It was there I met Bruce - not Bruce Wang but Bruce Spencer.. In a month we were married and have been ever since.</p> 

<p>It is a struggle for me though as I had no income in Jamaica only what was in my bank which was getting smaller by the day.. As we were kind of randomly married we were investigated to see if we were a genuine couple.. This caused me to lose my passport for several months making my rent accrue in the UK.. </p> 

<p>Eventually they evicted me while I was still over there..</p> 

<p>Obviously I have to return to see my family and deal with my life in the UK and have had to rely on my friends for somewhere to stay.</p> 

<p>All I can say is a massive thank you to them.</p> 

<p>I found a cleaning agency in London who gave me some work and that is how I met Bruce Wang. </p> 

<p>After about 5 or 6 cleans one night he asked me if I knew anything about computers? He was stuck with something. Can I fix it?</p> 

<p>Luckily for me and Bruce I am interested in tech, I did a degree course in computing back in 2005 and had built an android app.</p> 

<p>The long and the short of it is that I did fix it.. </p> 

<p>Bruce told me about his photography business and his latest books he had created a few months before.</p> 

<p>I told him I could build a website and handle his SEO... the rest is history.</p> 

 
<p>I love bingo. It changed my life and maybe one day I will win the big one.</p> 

<p>I am not saying people should gamble by any means. I watched a documentary about problem gambling on the BBC recently and it was sad to watch.</p> 

<p>I am lucky... My life has panned out this way because of it..</p> 

 <p>Its been a rocky road but I'm getting there day-by-day.</p> 

<p>I might lose sometimes trying to win jackpots but sometimes I actually do win something good. </p> 

<p>I believe life is guided somehow and I love the randomness bingo wins bring. Maybe it's my lucky spirit that made me max out on that 1 game that guided me to my husband, Bruce and citizen wang studio.</p> 
<p>Bingo also reminds me of my mum who passed away in 1993. We used to go every week.</p>

<p>But still I plod along with my web development as that is far more likely to get me the house I need to own so I can move backwards and forwards to the West Indies as I need. My husband and Spruce my step-son need me there as well as my family in the UK.</p> 

<p>I need that miracle to happen. I was not born rich.</p> 

<p> I am going out tonight with my daughter to land bingo at Leo Leisure.. Gareth Gates is opening the brand new hall.</p> 

<p>I would like to win 1000 pounds but it could be anyone of us that wins the bingo! Ha</p> 

<p>Forever Optimistic</p> 

<p>Debs</p> 

<p>Update: Just got back from bingo. I won 212 pounds.. It was a really wonderful night with some old faces of the days when my mother was here.</p>
<p>Happy days. I shared it with my daughter and it will add to her holiday fund.</p>
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<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>Today's date is 1st of August 2022. This is roughly about half eight, I'm talking to Bruce Wang in Islington about his work as a photographer, starting from looking at&nbsp; the origins of his early works.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Why photograph women?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah. Starting with the early origins of your photography, your work over the last seven years in particular. And why, Bruce, photograph women?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah. Well, I will reserve why I photograph women to the end of what I say. . I'm trying to think about why I just photograph women. I started my photography career, if you call it that, by photographing other boys in the boarding school I went to. I found that I liked photographing them, just head and shoulder shots, fully dressed with shirt, tie and jacket.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Was it a very formal boarding school?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Oh yes. It was Harrow. Very patrician, very conservative, very stuffy. I realized I only like photographing the pretty boys there, my contemporaries. I did it because they looked pretty and they looked like other girls of that age around at the time. I didn't photograph any rugged built cricket heroes because I thought they were boring. I photographed pretty boys which the authorities didn't liked very much, which is one of the things that got me kicked out of Harrow.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So rather than a homoerotic interest, it was because there were no girls, there were no girls at Harrow, and this was the closest you could get to female gender at that time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And at 13, 14, 15, I suffered terribly from the teenage hormone insurgency on my psyche and I was utterly confused. I looked around all the boys in the school, there was no-one interesting that I could relate to. I knew I wanted to have a girlfriend my age, but the only substitutes were boys of that age who looked like girls anyway, or in my mind they did.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Oh, it was an all boys school. You didn't even have the luxury of a crush on the teacher then did you?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>No. Repulsive teachers.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>All male I take it.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>All male, yeah. I went to Harrow where there was no latent homosexuality. I knew other contemporaries at prep school who went to other boarding schools, Catholic boarding schools, where there was a lot of paedophilia and mutual masturbation by the boys. At one school I heard of, young first years were forcibly held down and masturbated by another boy. So that was that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But that didn't happen in Harrow.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>No, no. No, it didn't.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then what about, when you were 12, 13, at the same time, you would've gone home for holidays I presume.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You were born in Hong Kong. You moved to London when you were 10. You must have met girls. You must have seen girls. You must have obviously seen women, you have sisters. You must have been surrounded by images of women growing up, did you?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Oh yeah. Playboy, occasional porn magazines. I had my first kiss at 15, a snog with another girl a year or two older than me, but I didn't actually lose my virginity till I was about 17, 18.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Oh, you were an early starter then.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Early starter, a very late starter. And that was accompanied by a great deal of misery and frustration, which canceled out the novelty of losing my virginity.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And have you kept any photographs left of those times?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>No, I burnt them all.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You burnt them all?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I burnt them all.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Deliberately presumably?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Oh yeah.</p>
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<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Just one of my mad fits.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What disturbed you about them?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I just didn't want any more memories of my miserable childhood.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Understandable enough. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>New Speaker:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I just don't know have any memories, any pictures. I still remember the pictures I had of the girls that I interacted with. And I can see those pictures in my mind, more than any of the over half million pictures since then.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So then when you moved on from Harrow and photographing boys and photographing girls, what was the next stage in your photographic life?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, I didn't do any more photography when I was 17, 18, it would've been '71, '72. And the guys I was with at university thought it was very uncool to take pictures, to take selfies and group photographs unlike nowadays. I had a camera with me, but all I was interested was... I was in Leeds. I was in a room and looking out the window, I saw that the opposite terrace houses chimney pots in late afternoon light. And I liked the pictures of chimney pots taken from my loft room at late afternoon. This was my early entry into still life and landscape.</p>
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<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What I was going to ask you was not why boys, why girls, but why people? As you mentioned there, the chimney pots turned you on.&nbsp; And landscapes, group photographs, that kind of thing. So why people? What was it fascinated to you about representation of people in their lives and their-</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The films I'd seen, the Sunday papers, Don McCullin and David Bailey. I thought this was how I wanted to be when I grew up. I must have grown up with the 50 years since then, but I didn't fancy going out to a war zone, the pictures of soldiers fighting or resting or shellshocked. And I really don't see myself as a fashion photographer like Bailey. I came across... So flash forward to four years ago, which is 2018, '17, as in 2015, '16, I was inviting standup comedians from Facebook to pose for me.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I did my portrait apprenticeship then. I had a very cheap camera. The results weren't very good, but some of them were usable. They were quite good pictures. I thought standup comedians were very expressive, had spunk and personality. And that was okay for a while. And then I asked some people on Facebook who were friends and asked some people. And then one day, one woman I photographed, I did some pretty insignificant photograph she was a pretty, an attractive woman of certain age.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then she just went to the changing room in my flat, the bathroom.. She came dressed in drag with a moustache, bowtie, and her personality was that of a female Les Dawson. I took lots and lots of pictures. Her name was Heather Henriques. I got loads of pictures of her in drag. I thought this is what I want to do. Her character was Richard Dick. I can't remember. S</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We can check her right later.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We'll check her later.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah. I mean, I think that's very interesting that the work that influenced you were the two photographers you mentioned who influenced you were first of all, Don McCullin and David Bailey. And you said you didn't want to do war photography, you didn't want to do fashion photography, but what you did want to do is what they did best, which was to tell a story.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah. They had an inner part of themselves which they had nurtured and cultivated in private and for whatever reason about their personality makeup, and now the blatant and very funny and very entertaining and biting satire wit about their performances. And this is about four years or three, four years ago, and I've never looked back. I have on occasion scrolled the endless pages of Facebook and you see all these male ballet dancers dressed only in swimming trunks or whatever they call them. I asked why is this still attractive to see a young male full of muscles prancing around for a photograph and it is because they look like women. And that's why I thought I've got to take more drag kings. Flash forward, and now I'm doing non-binary drag artists to redress the balance,.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>New Speaker:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>New Speaker:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>New Speaker:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>New Speaker:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>so what you are really doing then is you're pushing the envelope, aren't you?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You're expanding the representation of gender, of sexuality.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, I find that very interesting. I'm sitting here in your house and I can see a lot of the examples of your work around. And I mean, I presume these are coming from the last four or five years. They show a wealth of stories, they really do.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, I'm a confirmed bachelor and heterosexual. I wouldn't pretend to be non-binary or gay. I just find some women in the... I just find photographs of some women very alluring, interesting, inspirational. On my walls, I had pictures of women who set up the shot themselves and just got someone to press the button. See how they want to be represented by themselves as themselves and lesbian couples who took selfies of them and their partner - very, very beautiful pictures, far more beautiful than anything I've ever taken. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And then conversely, apart from looking at the photographs and well, I suppose really from following their instructions from looking at them, the way they would like to be seen, you can look at them the ways some other people would see them. You can see stories in their lives, their pictures. I mean, it reminds me of John Berger&rsquo;s book&nbsp; Ways of Seeing.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And the kind of storytelling that he did through photographs.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yes. I could launch into a bit of art history about women being depicted by the old masters from the beginning of time. I could talk about Cindy Sherman and others. Well, that's some other time. My first contact with a proper photographer and a proper woman photographer was Jo Spence. I don't know how I met her.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Didn't you make some furniture for her?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I did some carpentry for her. I built her and her partner a platform bed in the kitchen in their tiny Islington flat. And I donated stuff to Camera work the magazine. Although we didn't have that much in common, I found Jo utterly fascinating how you can spend all day editing, photographing. Well, Jo started out as a high street photographer, would do watch the birdie photos with animals and children .</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Like the equivalent of snappy snaps today.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah. And I thought how fascinating. And I was invited to private views of Camerawork magazine, but all the snooty white wine sipping critics, I just had nothing to say. So, I left that scene. This was in 1974, '75.</p>
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<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>That's a long time ago. Those would've been the days when Brian Sewell was really cornering the market and the art criticism and photographic criticism.</p>
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<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
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<p>Yeah. I didn't really start taking photograph till about 1981, '82, when I embarked disastrously on a furniture designing course. For some reason unknown to me to this day, the lecturers wanted us to... Instead of telling us how furniture was made, what was the best way of constructing a piece of furniture, they wanted us to design furniture to a brief without any experience of furniture making. And one of the things that we had to do was to go from the only&nbsp; the furniture building, wandering Lloyd's building, taking photos of the Lloyd's building, which was just going up then. It was still being built when I first photographed it. And that's what got me in taking lots of street photographs. I didn't last more than a month on furniture.</p>
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<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>But that's interesting that you mentioned that you lived in Islington. And I mean, Islington has been a great influence on you. I've seen a lot of your photographs. You've got a lot of Islington street photographs.</p>
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<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
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<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
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<p>As well. And I mean, I think that's interesting that you took photographs of buildings in Islington.</p>
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<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
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<p>Islington is more than a borough. It's a way of life. Rich socialists and council house Tories. Yeah.</p>
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<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
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<p>All the many diversities. I mean, I was in The Angel, Islington with you yesterday. I was amazed at the diversity. And now I'm talking one particular type of diversity, rich white diversity. There was every kind of fashionista style that was mind blowing. And then when you looked at all the street representations and everything else, it was just obviously such a rich, such a culturally diverse and probably such a productive area for you to live in.</p>
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<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
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<p>Yeah. I'll clarify more just sort of rich and poor. All the rich people who have millions around here in this square where I live. They don't care about the poor, who live in the council houses, all the rich people who vote labour have million pound houses in Islington, and all the council houses vote Tory. That's the irony, that's the beauty of England and Islington.</p>
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<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
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<p>The beauty of England and Islington is the irony and the dark side of England very much, isn't it?</p>
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<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
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<p>Yeah.</p>
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<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
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<p>It's this other England, this other Islington, this other London that isn't often represented. And that's what strikes me firstly about your street photographs of Islington, but also about your photographs of lesbian couples and of drag kings. These are people who are quite often, well, Jesus, traditionally, have been hidden from history and they're not given a place and represented about. And that's something that you're very much doing. You're giving them space. You make them visible.</p>
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<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
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<p>Well, yeah. Before Kings of Drag books one to five available from Amazon came out, there's only one book on drag kings by someone called Volcano, Hermes. That's about 20 years ago in America. The cover is about drag king in cowboy gear with a rifle, a Winchester rifle, dragged across his shoulders. After, there was nothing until I came along, which are publishing classics.</p>
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<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
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<p>As a feminist all my life and somebody who studied images of women and Madonna and sisters doing it for ourselves, all that kind of stuff, I find it really fascinating that until you did these drag king books, I mean, that was a culture or some culture in way you would describe it, how you would see it, an expression of gender that I wasn't aware of. And yet it's something that's very, very stimulating intellectually, I think, as well as in terms of representation. It says awful lot about women and men.</p>
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<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
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<p>Ah, how I photograph these non-binary/gay women as a reflection of my interaction with straight women, lovers, friends, sisters, mother, I have tremendous respect for women to say the least. I find pictures of women much more interesting than pictures of men.</p>
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<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, I agree. And I mean, I think with people like... Well, like Jo Spence you mentioned, Susan Sontag.</p>
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<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah. Yeah.</p>
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<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I mean, I can identify a lot with what you say because I'm a mother of a gay son. I'm very conscious through the photographs I took of my son when he was growing up of the way in which he saw himself in the way in which he wanted to be pictured, which varied very, very much over the years. And I think that's something that you've really hit on with these drag king books that the truth that you can tell from how we self identify. We're not binary, we're not black and white, none of us are.</p>
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<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Living in Ireland, I mean, I know more that more than most. Coming from China, you know that more than most as well. And I think that's the real strength of your work that you give people the space to define themselves.</p>
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<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah. Like my mother gave me and my late oldest sister, Jocelyn, she actually studied photography at the Guildford School of Art. And she was the one who&nbsp; taught me how to develop prints, develop and print pictures in a dark room. And when I'm editing that, I still think she said, Just cut out the bits that don't show any information or say nothing. Every time I edit a picture, I think of her words. This is from over 50 years ago. Basically, I was taught photography by women.</p>
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<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, the other big influence on you was your mother who was the woman's editor of the Hong Kong Tiger Standard.</p>
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<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>She must have worked, I mean, the whole centrality of her career must have been the representation of women, whether in the written or spoken word or photographic.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yes. Yes.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And yet she certainly didn't seem to be any kind of common or garden person.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>No, she went from being a woman's editor to bringing five children to England buying a house, shopping, cooking, cleaning, washing for five children, three meals a day. This is when she must've been about 40 something.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>What about your father? He wasn't there at that time?</p>
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<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>No, he was a typical fifties father, distant, away a lot. But yeah, to my mother, the one statement she made told me everything. One day we were sitting, reading the paper, she tell me, "Just read the first paragraph and the last paragraph and you&rsquo;ve got the story here." And we had some other the papers from Saturday, "And you see these? They're dead."</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>At least some are right.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And that was it. That was my entry to journalism and I'll never forget that.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, that's fantastic because if you don't get everything, you have to get everything, especially on tabloid. Well, in any paper, in any kind of representation or form, you have to get the entire story into the first paragraph and then you have to tell people what they're saying. And then at the end, you have to remind them what they've seen and what's in between is just really to power out the pages for the ads. And it strikes me that the kind of evasion guidance your sister, Jocelyn, gave you, carve out everything unessential.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>And they certainly did when it came to dealing with me and my crazy emotions, my hormone balance.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, it wasn't quite a struggle five children coming from China.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Oh, yes. Hong Kong. Yeah.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>On her own. Your mother seems to have brought, and obviously from your experience, she's brought all of you up to question and your brother's a very well known jazz musician.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah, Godfrey Wang</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You've all found your own paths.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah. Well, when my father died of cancer about '86, '87, no, '87. Yeah. He offered his multi million pound business empire to my brother. And my brother said, "I don't want to be a millionaire businessman. I want to play my piano." And he suggested to my father that he should keep all his money and enjoy the rest of his life.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn Johnston:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Which is a good philosophy to live by.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Bruce Wang:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Yeah. My brother, he prides himself on never having given a piano lesson for his income and salary. His entire income has been from playing the piano.</p>
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              <p>Carl Haart interview 3 September 2022 - TJ</p>
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<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Thank you for taking those photographs. I can't wait to see them.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>Kathryn:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;TJ. This interview is really just to talk to you about what's influenced you and your views and that kind of thing.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; No worries.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>Kathryn:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;So I mean, you work here in a queer artist studio, the 343 in Cathedral Buildings in the heart of Belfast, which is just about to close down. Could you describe your performance?</p>
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<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; For me? So Carl came about, I used to do really hyper femme burlesque. And then when we went into lockdown and I was allowed to be myself full-time, I realized I couldn't go back to being the character that I was before, which was really femme.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>So I decided to work on a new character and pulled inspiration from people that inspire me, like Dick Von Dyke.&nbsp;</p>
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<p><a href="https://citizenwangstudio.com/portfolio.php" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://citizenwangstudio.com/portfolio.php</a></p>
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<p>So Dick is my drag dad. They're one of my biggest inspirations. And then just finding sort of country references.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>Carl Hart comes from Carhartt, which is the American work wear brand. So it's kind of working, builder, cowboy, that kind of a vibe. And just, I'm trying to use the platform that I create with Carl to promote issues close to my heart.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>So I do a lot of routines revolving around trans rights. I'm trans myself. So it's very important to me that if I'm given a platform or a stage, that I can use that to kind of show the inequalities that we're still facing and the things that need to be resolved and fixed, basically, with society and how we treat trans people.</p>
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<p>Kathryn:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;It's like everything here in the north, we don't treat anybody well.</p>
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<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; No, we definitely don't.</p>
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<p>Kathryn:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Trans people get really appalling treatment here. I mean, they do from the UK government - still. The jury's out on what's going to happen in Westminster in the autumn. [When legislation is due to be tabled banning conversion therapy - with the exception of trans and non binary people].</p>
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<p><a href="https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/uk-conversion-therapy-ban-without-trans-and-non-binary-people-not-real-ban" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/uk-conversion-therapy-ban-without-trans-and-non-binary-people-not-real-ban</a></p>
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<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Statistics everywhere are shocking and appalling, but it's like, it's four to five years here to wait for your first appointment. And there's too many people dying on a waiting list because they're not getting the access to the healthcare that they need urgently. It's not seen as an urgent thing or something that needs treated urgently. So you're just kind of left.</p>
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<p>Kathryn:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;And then you've got the right wing backlash about the Tavistock clinic and all that kind of thing.&nbsp;</p>
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<p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/jul/28/nhs-closing-down-london-gender-identity-clinic-for-children" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/jul/28/nhs-closing-down-london-gender-identity-clinic-for-children</a></p>
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<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Oh, of course. Yeah, yeah. The only thing the media wants to talk about is where we want to go pee in a bathroom. That's the only fight they're willing to talk about. They're not willing to talk about the actual implications for trans people and the fact that that's not at all. The trans agenda is not to take over bathrooms, it's literally just to get to exist as you are.</p>
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<p>Kathryn:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Yeah, quite. Exactly. When did you start performing?</p>
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<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; So I started performing as Carl this April. So it's only been a few months with Carl. And then, like I said, I've been performing since 2018 under a different name, but I kind of reinvented myself the beginning of this year and started to debut Carl on the 21st of April this year, I think was my debut. So not very long.</p>
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<p>Kathryn:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;It's going well. And where do you perform.</p>
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<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Yeah, so mostly around in Maverick.&nbsp; On Thursdays it's open drag night, so anyone can perform provided you've kind of told them before that&nbsp; you're going to perform.</p>
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<p>&nbsp;So I'm in a competition now for the next six weeks called Drag Stars, which is kind of a version of the likes of Drag Race. But it's just a whole bunch of different drag performers from kings, queens and things. And we're going to compete for the next six weeks to win the grand prize.</p>
<p>I want to kind of push Carl to kind of do... If I had it my way I would do country numbers and Shania Twain and Orville Peck all day, every day, all my favourite influences.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>But I'm excited to kind of push myself, we've got the themes for the weeks. And there's a lot of things that maybe not necessarily would be something I would look at, but I'm really excited to push myself out of the box.</p>
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<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Yeah. So week one is basically your best drag. So just what you interpret your best performance to be. So I'm bringing my... It's called trans riot. It's a routine that I do to I Predict a Riot. And it kind of goes through the facts and the statistics for trans people in Northern Ireland. So about the waiting times, about how you're kind of pushed to go privately and what we actually need to be doing as society instead of allowing the same rhetoric to be repeated over and over and over again. Just something nice and light.</p>
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<p>Kathryn:&nbsp; &nbsp;That's great - I really like that tatt on your wrist there, "Exist Loudly." I mean, there's no point in existing if you're not going to exist loudly and be true to who and what you are.</p>
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<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Yeah. I think that's the thing. I think for me, through drag and through my personal life, there's no way I'd be where I was without other people speaking up for me and speaking out to me. So I'm like, if I have the energy and I have the capacity for it, then I feel like I owe it to those people and to myself to kind of pass on what I've been told.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>So I go privately for hormones. And I only learned that through people responding to me on Instagram and telling me, "Hey, this is the route. This is who you should look at. This is where you should go."&nbsp;</p>
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<p>So I'm like, if I have a platform, of course I want to share that with everyone else because I've lost friends to waiting lists. And if there's anything that I can do, any small part I can play, I want to be that person. I want to stand up and kind of show that we have so much further to go.</p>
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<p>Kathryn:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Well I think that's particularly hard in the north, all over the place but particularly in Belfast, where you've got Jolene Bunting, who came out and did the protest at the MAC at drag story time.</p>
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<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; It's absolutely appalling. And I think it just further feeds into this narrative that they want to play out, not just for trans individuals, but for queer people in general, that there's something seedy and there's something very sordid about being queer. And it's like, a drag queen isn't forcing kids in and rounding them up in the streets. It's literally like-minded parents who want their kids to be exposed to the entire spectrum of society that are going, "Oh, this would be class. My kids would be really interested in this." The same drag queens have performed story times where they've dressed up as Pinocchio, and I've seen them do Matilda ones. There's never protests, but to stand outside when it's a drag queen with signs to say, "Protect our children," it's absolutely appalling.</p>
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<p>Kathryn:<span style="white-space: pre;"> </span> People don't look at what reality is, they look at what their idea of reality is.</p>
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<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Yeah. I think that's the thing, as I was saying before, there's only certain narratives they want you to listen to. So they want you to listen to the narrative that trans people only agenda is to go into sports and ruin it for everybody. And their only other agenda is to go and want to take over the bathrooms. Gay people and queer people are still being persecuted for literally just existing, where they have three or four narratives and that's all they want to push because they realize that it's not this big newfangled thing that they think it is. It's just people existing as themselves.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>And queer people existing quietly as well as existing loudly.</p>
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<p>The more they're going to push these narratives, the more it's going to push things like this further and further back from being accessible to people, because they'll have to be hidden.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>I did a Queertopia show for trans pride, and there was concern about the same kind of picketing at that. And I'm like, "It is 2022 and we're still... we can't just run a night of incredible performers without doing..." Thankfully nothing had happened at the show, but I'm just like, with the likes of the drag queens at drag story time - What is their end goal? What are they going to achieve? Because spoiler alert, we're not going anywhere.</p>
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<p>&nbsp;So if you've nothing else to do a Sunday afternoon, and that's what you decide to do, I mean, that's on you. But I just don't see what their end goal is because they're not going to stop it. [drag story time].</p>
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<p>It&rsquo;s the same as with everything in Northern Ireland, that they've tried to persecute and they've tried to push down.</p>
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<p>But it's not going to go away. Just because you lose access to rights around something doesn't mean that that thing isn't going continue. Same with the abortion rights argument and stuff. It's always going to happen. It's always going to be here. We're just trying to make things safe.</p>
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<p>Kathryn:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Well, abortion always has existed in Northern Ireland.</p>
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<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Yeah, that's what I mean.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>Kathryn:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;But things don't change here very quickly.</p>
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<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; No, they really certainly don't. I mean, I count myself lucky, I have incredible friends and supporters around me and I'm part of really class groups of people through trans pride and stuff. But I don't think they realize that their end goal is so unachievable because they're not going to cancel anything out. That there's no point to them getting on the way they're getting on. We're still going to be here. We're still going to be having events. We're still going to be reading story books to kids and they can't stop that. It's going always to continue.</p>
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<p>We're struggling for arts funding through all of the sectors of the arts, to have events and to run things for the entire family, that you would just think they'd go, "Okay, it's not my cup of tea. I'll not attend myself, but it's not hurting anyone so I'll just leave it be."</p>
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<p>Kathryn:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; That's exactly it. There's no such thing as a liberal agenda in the north. There definitely isn't. So your activism is actually driving you and the performance?</p>
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<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I think so, 'cause I think I've kind of found that, because I have this platform and this is something I'm confident in, this is something I really enjoy doing, that this is the kind of means to push that out. So I've got a couple of routines that are very centred on the trans experience, but also just me presenting as Carl opens conversations and doors with people that I think maybe wouldn't be there without it.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>And I think it's important to show, especially because of the rise of the influence of drag and how big drag has become, it's even more important now to show that drag queens are cool and they are class, and they're very valid and they're very part of the community, but they're not the only gender expression available to drag. There's drag kings that have been there from the beginning that aren't... Drag Kings are always the ones taking the photos instead of being in the photos, Drag Kings are very much behind the scenes. Drag Things as well.</p>
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<p>Kathryn:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;That's really interesting.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Yeah. I think that's something that not enough people realize is part of drag also, because I think...</p>
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<p>Kathryn:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Could you say a wee bit more about that?</p>
<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Yeah. So Drag Kings and Things are basically just anyone that falls outside wanting to identify as a Drag Queen. So a Drag King usually is more masculine presenting. Drag King, Drag Things, sorry, can kind of fall somewhere in the middle or somewhere entirely different from that. So there's some other incredible performers like Xxxpresso Martini that I work with.</p>
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<p>There's That Count Bella Lubowsi.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>They're both incredible performers and they fall under the kind of bracket of being like, they're both psychedelic, bright colours. I know Xxxpresso calls themselves a psychedelic clown, which is perfect. That's exactly what they are.&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>They're both brilliant people. But I think it's kind of showing that this binary representation of drag is slowly changing. I think it's incredible. I'm not a fan myself of RuPaul, but it's incredible to see the push of drag and showing a mainstream audience what drag is and making it more accessible. But I think we've kind of lost sight of actually what drag performance is in part of that, and kind of left out the majority share of the community who do drag, who have always done drag. Seeing Drag Kings as this other and Drag Things as this other, that can't compete mainstream is appalling.</p>
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<p>The Boulet Brothers' Dragula are the first ones to put a Drag King, with Landon Cider, into a public show. I mean, Dragula's fantastic if you've never seen it, it's terrifying and spooky and gross, but it's just wonderful.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>It's very, very much alternative drag. And I think it's kind of showing that this, what most people would class as alternative drag, is in fact as valid and as represented, needs to be as represented as mainstream drag would be.</p>
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<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; There is. I mean, definitely, like I said, in the last couple of years I think through having more exposure in the mainstream media to drag, that has created a lot more opportunities for people. There's Onya Becks, she's a drag queen in Belfast who runs open drag night in the Maverick. on a Thursday and she lets anyone perform.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>And I have really seen, when I started performing five years ago now, there was maybe a quarter of the drag performers that there would be now. It's absolutely taken off and it is this huge, big... We have a whole industry now behind, where fabric companies know all of the drag queens because they buy from them.</p>
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<p>So it's kind of created this whole community and it's like, there's people locally who make wigs and do costumes and stuff like that. So it's created its own kind of micro industry, almost, which is really fun to see because it's nice that...It's a lot of queer people supporting queer people. So we're kind of staying as self-sufficient as we can through it. And from my experience personally, I mean, everyone is... It's welcoming and it's open and it's available to everyone.</p>
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<p>Kathryn:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;And you get a lot of support from fellow performers.</p>
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<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I say, I mean, Dick is my biggest inspiration and my biggest influence And just one of my biggest performers... One of my biggest supporters. I've got a lot of other people, there's Ross Anderson-Doherty who runs Cabaret Supper Club and&nbsp; has done all</p>
<p>these incredible pieces they put on.</p>
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<p>But I think people think, and I think this is probably the fault of the TV shows, that you have to be at a certain level to get into drag. That you have to already have this fully brandable image and this full look, and throw all of your money at it. And drag is absolutely not that, drag is creative and DIY and do-it-yourself. and have a go and fuck around and find out, you know? It's not...</p>
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<p>Kathryn:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; It's like street art.</p>
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<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Yeah, literally. It's not polished as you're presented it on the TV.&nbsp; Yeah. It's supposed to be raw. It's supposed to be, you're having a go and seeing if something works.</p>
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<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; You're supposed to be making your costumes yourself. It's not this pageant-level polished image. To me personally, that isn't drag. That is a very hyper version of something that should be more grassroots and more DIY and more kind of supporting each other and building it, excuse me, from the ground up as a collective. Instead of just watching these hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of pounds of costuming and wig and makeup and stuff. I mean, if that's your style of drag, cool. But to me drag is more gutsy than that.</p>
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<p>Kathryn:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Yeah. You see, everybody I've talked to, everybody seems to be really driven by activism and expression of that activism. It really kind of informs or motivates your performances.</p>
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<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Yeah, I would say absolutely. I mean, definitely, I think, coming from Northern Ireland adds another level to that, because I think especially if you're someone who's in the queer community, you know the level of activism we've had to do. So you know the fighting we've done for years for marriage equality, you know the fighting we've done for anything that we've got as a community. So I think we are all born with this natural instinct of like, "Oh, I'm going to do it, but I'm going to do it with a slant that engages people and has these discussions that still need to be had.&rdquo;</p>
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<p>&hellip;If they just left us alone we'd probably keep quieter. But if they're going to keep making a fuss, we're going to make a louder fuss. That's the way it has to be until you show just how ridiculous these arguments are, to the point where they just have nothing else to come back at you with. It's 2022 and I reckon the arguments we're having centred around Pride are exactly the same as when it began. Pride in Belfast began in the nineties but it just feels like it's the same.</p>
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<p>I think it's the same narrative that they've tried to push the whole time, we&rsquo;re queer history they're trying to write out of the history books. So I think that's probably another reason everyone is as loud and is talking about it and kind of making sure that we keep those stories. Because we have generations of stories lost. Queer elders and trans elders don't exist from certain generations 'cause the government and everyone around them were happy enough to let them be wiped out. We're happy enough to feed these narratives through the AIDS crisis, where people had to hide because you couldn't be associated with that. We've kind of decided that they're going to rewrite history to exclude queer people, when since the dawn of time, people have been queer since the dawn of time. People have done drag since the dawn of time, people have been trans. I think this generation, certainly generations before mine are going, "All right. Okay. We're done with that being allowed. We're done with that being acceptable. We're just going to push now."</p>
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<p>Kathryn:&nbsp; Can you talk about your tattoos 'cause they're fantastic.</p>
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<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; No, I mean, my tattoos I kind of have been collecting them over the years. Some of them have meaning, some of them don't. I mean, my friends... So this one, the rain frog, this is what my friends say I look like because I have a very grumpy little face.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So my friend, when I did burlesque my friend drew this for me. So it's a little grumpy frog with nipple tassels. I have these, "Exist Loudly," because that's kind of my biggest message. But I've also got it mixed with, "Crybaby." I have, "Soft," because I think for me, this is one I tattooed on myself, and it's kind of one of my most meaningful because I think everything would make you want to become a tougher person. I think if you have tough experiences and if it's hard to kind of exist as yourself, it's very, very easy to make this hard shell around yourself that you don't let people in. So it's kind of my daily message.</p>
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<p>Kathryn:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;So you've done most of your own tats then?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Oh no, no, no. Just a couple of them. I pay professional people with a lot more skill than me to do the majority. I've just done a couple of wee ones, my hand and stuff. But yeah, I think that's kind of my most important, 'cause I think everything wants you to be this hardened shell of no emotion. You can actually be soft and enjoy things whilst having to deal with all of that stuff.</p>
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<p>Kathryn:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Well, I think that's one of the hardest things to do, actually, to let people touch you. That's one of the strengths that I see in drag performance. In this role, it is open. It's emotional. It's also very funny. I think humor and satire are great tools to use.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I've done speeches, I did a speech at trans pride and that was kind of quite hard hitting and very deep and personal to me 'cause it was all about my personal journey. And I think that can be difficult to listen to. And I appreciate not everyone, because of where they are in their stage of life, can listen to something like that. But if I can put that kind of energy, but put it with... I do one with Orville Peck's version of Born This Way, where I've gone on stage before and applied Testogel, which is how I take my testosterone, and kind of show that you can take those hard hitting messages, but kind of put them in a performance</p>
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<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; An easier to deliver method if you will.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Yeah, I think that's very liberating.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>TJ:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Yeah, I think so. I kind of want to show people 'cause I think, again, because of a lot of focus for me is trans, the narrative is that trans healthcare is this big, brand new, revolutionary, never been done before...&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>When hormone replacement therapy has been done for years and it is very, very simple and it's not this big thing. So I, at trans pride, kind of used the statement of applying my Testogel to show that it's such a simple process. That it's the government, that it's the media narrative that's over-complicating it and making it seem like it's this huge, big, impossible task. And I'm like, "It's a bottle of gel, a bit of pump in my arm, rub it in well. And I feel happier in myself for doing it."&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>So I think it's important to me to kind of show that side as well. And I like taking something that would be quite a hard hitting message and putting it in a more palatable sort of delivery option, which is drag for me.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Kathryn:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Yeah. That's a cracker quote to end with. Thank you very much TJ!</p>
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              <p>Hello, my name is Christian adore, or I'm Francesca Forrestal, it's whichever you prefer. Drag, to me is a space where I can explore different elements, different facets of my personality that are both me and a creation of me, Christian is not me. But he's certainly aspects of my personality. I think I used to teach at a boys school, very posh boarding school in Oxford. And it introduced me to a new form of masculinity I hadn't really seen before they were boys when I started teaching them. And by the end, when they were kind of going off to their secondary schools, they were turning into men and trying to grapple with what that meant to them on a kind of broader societal scale. And it was around the time that I was also developing my drag character, and Christian adore.</p>
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<p>My character certainly draws on the kind of man that I saw growing in those schools, someone who's not necessarily given a way of articulating emotions properly. But that has a lot of emotion and wants to express it. They want so many feelings. They love aesthetic and artifice and beauty. And being exuberant or being loud and being childish, but being deadly serious sometimes, too. And I think my dry character is quite childish in that way. He's terribly excited by everything and, and loves intensely and feels intensely and wants everything to be beautiful. And fine, find the beauty in things. Certainly, when I started, a lot of people were like, aren't you pretty feminine to be a dry King dry kings need to be masculine or like, you know, look like a bro. So the glitter that you have on your eyes, and the wingtips is not going to cut it really. And the more I've developed in drag, the more I kind of lean into that.</p>
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<p>I think being a feminine drag king has made me more comfortable with being feminine in my daily life. It's not something I used to really be comfortable with doing. I was like, oh, no, I'm queer. Therefore, I must look quick. Therefore, I can't like anything girly. And doing drag has made me be like, No, this is a part of my personality. I can put it on just as much as if I was going out. I could put on a dress and that would feel just as drag to me. They're all costumes and it's just about kind of embracing them and enjoying them.&nbsp;</p>
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              <p class="x_p1 x_ContentPasted0" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';">Neuralink: Elon Musk: &ldquo;we have the technology we can rebuild you&rdquo;<span class="x_Apple-converted-space x_ContentPasted0" style="border: 0px; font: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p class="x_p1 x_ContentPasted0" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';">Following the success of his co-creation Paypal, then becoming the CEO of both Tesla&rsquo;s and the inaccurately named Boring Co, as well as famously his $44 billion bid for Twitter, Elon Musk has also founded SpaceX which is seeking to terraform Mars, send people there and have us all visit space. Given this apparently visionary status his Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency investments are carefully watched and mimicked by his attentive followers, some say he is among the most influential figures on the planet.</p>
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<p><iframe title="Monkey MindPong" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/rsCul1sp4hQ" width="280" height="250" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe></p>
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<p class="x_p1 x_ContentPasted0" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';">Apparently, the &lsquo;operation&rsquo; to implant the Neuralink chip is not invasive. The chip is 8mm in length and does not require a surgeon. Implanting the chip does not require anaesthesia and does not require an overnight stay at the hospital. In order to achieve this the company have built a robotic device to implant the chip as it is almost impossible to achieve the precision needed to deliver over 1000 micron-scale threads attached to the chip to the locations they need to be in the brain, in order to pick up the required neural activity. Neuralink is developing an app for IOS that will enable the user to control their smartphones with thought alone.&nbsp;<span class="x_Apple-converted-space x_ContentPasted0" style="border: 0px; font: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; color: inherit;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p class="x_p1 x_ContentPasted0" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';">Recently, it has been on the news that several people have come forward to be the first human subjects for the forthcoming Neuralink trials to have the controversial brain chip implanted. Some of those who have come forward are able bodied.</p>
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<p class="x_p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; min-height: 13px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_p1 x_ContentPasted0" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';">However, the Neuralink chip is not just designed in aiding the disabled it is also aimed at &lsquo;enhancing&rsquo; regular people. There are claims such technology will create a &lsquo;new elite&rsquo; who will have a distinct edge over other &lsquo;un-chipped&rsquo; people&rsquo;s abilities. It is claimed that using this technology they may be able to produce written text at 180 wpm; faster than conversational speech which is slow in comparison at around 150 wpm. As well as a chipped person being able to directly interact with AI and augmented reality.</p>
<p class="x_p1 x_ContentPasted0" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';">Elon wants us to achieve symbiosis with AI. This is to allow the human race to stay at the top of the intelligence tree. AI could spell civilisation coming to an end as we know it and we must not allow computers to supersede us. Saying that, fusion between humans and computers could change us from being what we are today. Famously, Steven Hawking once mentioned that AI could spell the end of the human race. Neuralink&rsquo;s motto is &lsquo;if you can&rsquo;t beat them join them&rsquo;. This signifies Elon&rsquo;s own fears of where AI is going and how we can at least be on a par with computers using Neuralink.</p>
<p class="x_p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; min-height: 13px;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="x_p1 x_ContentPasted0" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';">The idea of science which controversially involves the use of animal subjects produces stark disagreement. Its research and development as well as the potential impacts it may have on society should this technology become mainstream are matters of highest concern especially, in humanities, education and privacy. It could be argued that people have already become in effect &lsquo;cyborgs&rsquo; in our day-to-day life by our interactions with smart phones and RFI chips. Using this technology one could connect to a bluetooth device inside of your head, your brain having the music directly beamed into it from Spotify!</p>
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<p class="x_p1 x_ContentPasted0" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';">We all would like to see debilitating neurological conditions and paralysis eradicated from this world. We would hope however that it could be achieved without the need for animal experimentation.</p>
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              <p class="p1" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 30px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><strong>Bruce Wang interview, 7 October 2022</strong></span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Right, Bruce. It's 9:30 on Friday 7th October, and it's been a while since we've spoken. So, what have you been doing for the last three weeks?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">I wrote a book and I've worked on my second book - on my sixth book, my first book after the Kings of Drag series. It&rsquo;s available on Amazon, called Ways of Showing, and it is currently being printed. And I've started a sixth book, which is more a journal of world events as reported on the radio. I haven't watched TV for several months now because the programming is so poor, and the images and nuances on radio are far superior.</span></p>
<p class="p3" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 22.7px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">And those images and nuances on the radio that you are hearing, in this new book, would it be fair to say you're commenting on them with a commentary of your own photographs?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">It's an old habit of mine to juxtapose photographs with &lsquo;accepted knowledge&rsquo; and put wacky captions to them. It's great fun.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">How far have you got with it? What are the themes you see emerging?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">I don't know if I'll ever publish it, it's just a journal that goes on and on and on. It's like a blog that's a newspaper. After a couple of days, the news is dead.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">I remember you saying that before in an interview, that is what your mother said to you about headlines in papers.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Yeah.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">And then, the next day, the previous day's paper, that was all dead news.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">It was all dead news, yeah. There are a few themes that run through it, and things progress or regress, but they usually progress. It's not depressive and it's certainly not introspective, not suicidal, it's not goodbye cruel world. I really hope for a wonderful world.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">So it's reflective more than anything?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">It's self reflective, projected onto world events and world leaders and politicians who I never met, I have no intention of meeting. It is my... This is a Pepy's diary, you know? A Pepy's diary.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Like the Great Fire of London?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Yeah, the Great Fire of London, before that. It's just a diary. Anne Frank's diary. Instead of hiding in the attic, I'm in my second floor maisonette in total luxury without fear of Nazis arriving and taking you away&hellip;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">And how's it made you feel when you've been doing this book?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">It makes me satisfied, it's immensely satisfying.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Both books?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Yeah.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">But the way you're talking at the minute, you're not thinking about this latest book ever being published, necessarily?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Possibly posthumously. I get intimations that I could live quite a few more years, so...</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">So there's no rush.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">There's no rush.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">You'd be better not publishing it posthumously so you can get all the praise and recognition for it, wouldn't you?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">I don't need praise and recognition, I know it's good. I want pirate versions of it to come out so that people can get their dirty little hands on it, but I'm not going to personally kill hours and...</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Seek publication.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">... sell it to them. No. The more pirate versions there are of it, that will be a gauge of my worldly success. I'm not interested in Booker Prizes or book sales. That really doesn't interest me, I just enjoy doing it.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">You're interested in noting down your thoughts, reactions, your analysis?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Yeah.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Your comments.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">I find so many books are just aimed at getting an income, which...</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">You couldn't be referring to Jeffrey Archer there, could you?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">No, just books in general. Books in general. Let's just get an income and be famous, go on talk shows. That doesn't interest me.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">So you did it more so as a form of creativity, self expression?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Or self abuse. It's a form of...</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">It's a form of communication primarily, isn't it?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">What does expiation mean?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Oh, atonement?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Yeah. It's a form of expiation. Noting down all who have done me wrong, done me good, all the harm I've done.<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Well, we'll call a halt there and we can go-</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">No way-</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Yeah, yeah. Call a halt temporarily but keep the tape on, and just say whatever else you want to say, Bruce.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Well, I really think money's just printed toilet paper. And the more I conceded to the circulation of printed toilet paper, the worse the world would become. The clever bit is that we can sell this interview, or use this interview to promote...</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Promote sales?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Yes. I hate to be thought of as some sort of hermit in a two roomed flat, typing his heart out to some fantasy audience. I live my amusement. I think it would be a good book. I'll be damned if I'll go through the publishing process again after Ways of Showing book.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">It was very stressful for you, wasn't it?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Oh, Jesus.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">But at the same time it only took you about, what, two, three weeks. The publishing process, I don't mean doing the work on it.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Yeah.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">But the actual publishing process itself.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Well, I could do so, I suppose. I'll publish it, yeah. I'll publish it. But I'm more interested in writing a novel under the name of Dulcimer Dewdrop. It'd be called The Adventures of a Nazi Jew Headmaster.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">That sounds as if it's more of a personal experience.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Oh yes.&nbsp; My old prep school headmaster was a borderline..</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">How do you mean borderline?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Well, he never actually crossed the line but he totally fucked the brains of all the boys in the school.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">They must've all felt very vulnerable.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Oh yeah. Some of the boys, it just went over their heads, but for some, the headmaster, he became a father figure. As a father figure, he was not professional. He didn't abuse me or touch me or anything, he just totally fucked my brain over. This is the age of 11, 12, 13. Totally fucked my brain over. But then, I let him.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Well, what else could a 10, 11, 12 year old do?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Exactly. I do know one Singaporean guy who flew over to England, from Singapore, to, I think, a prep school, public school. He decided he didn't like it and he took it upon himself to leave the school, travel to London, get a flat, and go to tutors. I wonder what the course of my life would've been had I done that.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">How did he manage to subsist? Did he have family wealth?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">He had relatively wealthy parents. I had relatively wealthy parents, but I didn't realize he was a millionaire till he was dead.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Who, your father?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Yeah. I was always constantly trying to economize and saving money.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">That's probably why he was a millionaire, Bruce?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Well, yeah. I was always constantly trying to economize and save money on his behalf.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">What did he do?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Huh?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">What did your father do?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Oh, he had 30,000 acres of rain forest in the South Pacific. How he got an income out of them, I just don't know. Now, there's a tale of a money tree. A magic money tree that existed for my father. You've got 30,000 acres of rain forest. How do you extract &pound;500 a month in 1962 to send to your five children and wife? In 1962, &pound;500 was half of a year's wages for the average worker. Somehow from those trees, with his copra sales, which is extract from coconut: that couldn't have been enough to remit &pound;500 a month.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Have you tried to look into his commercial history? His life? Have you tried to work it out?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">It's just a mystery.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">What was his name?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">James.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">James Wang?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Yeah. James Koh Sing Wang. If I had 30,000 acres of rain forest now, I'd be blowed if I could figure out how to earn the equivalent of &pound;500 a month now, in 2022, from rain forest.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">But wasn't it very rich in natural resources? Wasn't there some copper?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">No, mainly mosquitoes and cockroaches.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">And did you ever live out there with him?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Yeah. I went there for a month and talked to him, and realized we had nothing in common, nothing to say to each other. Yeah. I was only 30 and I was pretty na&iuml;ve even at 30. This is 1984, I was 30 years old. I didn't ask the obvious thing, How did you get your money? The average plantation worker only worked when he saw the boss man coming, and while boss man was there. As soon as the boss man left, he'd stop working. How could he motivate them? Even though he was paying them albeit a small wage, it was the going rate. I didn't ask him that.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">But he managed to do it, obviously?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">He did it, yes. That's the amazing thing.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">And your mother worked too.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">For a while, as a journalist, but then she gave it all up to look after us.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Would've been hard in those days doing anything else with five kids.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Yeah. Yeah. But we had a good life. We had the best meat, the best veg, the best toys. We had the best of everything.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">And you were happy?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Well, I had my &ldquo;hormonal insurgencies&rdquo;, but they weren't terminal.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Obviously not.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">We had the best of everything. Yeah, we did.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">And you lived in Surrey?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Oh God, Surrey. Yes, stockbroker belt. Oh Jesus. Boring. Nothing happens. Absolutely nothing.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Did you live in the country or the town?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Suburbia. Esher, Small town for stockbrokers. Jesus Christ. We just had, next door to us, this guy, who &nbsp;developed his own house and &nbsp;moved in with his family. They had built the house right up to our fence at the back, where we ecologically burnt all the newspapers, and he was very annoyed because he had the house painted white. And we burnt...</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">And you blackened his house.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Covered in soot all the white paint. Anyway. And then I had a room where I'd open all my windows and have my... Chicago, the band, they'd had their first and second album come out, and I used to play it full blast on my stereo every single day.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">25 or six to one, or something, wasn't it?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">25 or six to four.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Oh.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">(sins it). And he'd come storming round. And how old would my sister have been? I would be about 14, my late oldest sister would've been about 19. And she just marched him up our drive and told him not to come back.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Good for her.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">And shut the gate on him. Happy days.<span class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Yeah, so I continue to do my journal, and I do it so that, at the end of every day, it's ready to go to press. But lo and behold, the BBC AM team see to it that there's more to come. They have a talent for that.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Well, it's a never ending project, isn't it, if you're doing a daily journal? But it's supposed to be very helpful and very beneficial.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Yeah.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Do you find it like that?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Well, I see my role as helping, informing, guiding people. In the past, I used to go through a hell of a lot of A3 size paper, writing gibberish. But in 1979, I did tiny detailed drawings with pen and ink. It hasn't really changed since 1979, only I do it with digital photographs and...</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">I just think it's interesting. The reason I was smiling there, Bruce, was I just think it's interesting, since 1979, which was the very year that Margaret Thatcher came to power.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">I know, I know. Yeah. That's when I had the calling.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Yeah.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Suffice it to say that the 1979 bout of reportage had me in an oppressive insane asylum for about two months.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">What year was that?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">'79.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Mm-hmm.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Yeah. In fact, most bouts of reportage have ended in insanity. This time it seems to be under control.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">It seems to be clarifying things for you.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Yeah. That's what's so fascinating and exhilarating about it. I'm just more confident. I'm more confident and 40 years older. Nowadays I only get sick from my cancer or exhaustion, rather than delusions of grandeur and paranoia, which could have been partly there in the past.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">You don't strike me as somebody that would be subject to delusions of grandeur or paranoia.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">I was so grandiose anyway, man.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">But you know what I mean? I mean, you seem fairly self confident?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">I know. That's what public school gives you.&nbsp; I only had two and a half years of public school but that was enough to give me a confidence and a belief in myself And this confidence was enough to power me through two years in Communist Leeds University campus, Leeds Polytechnic.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Those must've been good days.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">They were great days, yeah. When young women bought men drinks.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">They still do.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">They do? I was so poor, this impoverished art student offered to buy me a beer. It was only 25p a pint, but 25p was a lot of money in those days. Yeah. &pound;10 a week in Leeds, I lived on. Rent was &pound;3, food was &pound;3.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston: ?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">It was 25p for a beer</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">25p and then-</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">And books and clothes. Huh?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Cigarettes and clothes, yeah.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Did you smoke much?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">I did, yeah. But the cigarettes are very bad. About 50p for 20, something like that.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">I remember years and years and years ago, 10 Players No6 being five bob, maybe? 25p or something?</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Yeah, yeah. Well, 1973, a university graduate with a good degree started on &pound;25 a year in accountancy. And the dole was &pound;23 a week.</span></p>
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<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">A week, yeah. So there wasn't much of a conflict there, was there?</span></p>
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<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Not much. A lot quit and went on the dole and work on the black.</span></p>
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<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">That's an expression that I haven't heard for a long time. Working on the black.</span></p>
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<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Yeah, so carpentry, therapy, working for People's News Service.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">As a photographer?</span></p>
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<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">No. That's how I met Jo Spence. We got a press release from them, asking for volunteers, and I went round and met her. And she takes these amazing photographs of casual kids having a good time. Really reacting unselfconsciously to her camera. How did she get these pictures, yeah? How did she get in there and get the pictures? Anyway, that's another story. Another story.</span></p>
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<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Kathryn Johnston:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Well, let's call a halt there.</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Bruce Wang:</span></p>
<p class="p2" style="margin: 0px; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Okay.</span></p>
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              <p>My name is Jaxon and I'm a 28 year old drag artist in Knoxville, TN. I present both masculine and femme drag. I'm known as both Dixon Normus and Belle Bottoms, but my friends always just call me Dixon.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>For the longest time, I never even heard of drag kings. Drag queens were so abundant in social media as well as television, so I didn't think about the other side of drag like that. One day I decided to search the internet and see what a drag king looked like and I was immediately floored by what I found. Drag kings were EVERYWHERE! I then took it upon myself to try out king makeup and I really liked what I saw in the mirror. And so, Dixon was born!</p>
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<p>I first started my drag career in Sevierville around the beginning of May in 2019 at a local bar called GlowSky. I started out doing talent nights and as I got more and more confident on stage, I tried venturing out to different venues. My first ever performance at CORE(formerly known as Edge) was the Monday following pride weekend and the amount of love and support from fellow entertainers made me feel like I was right at home.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>The type of drag that I present is kind of like a wild card in the game Uno. You never know what you're gonna get. I like performing camp, alternative, and anything else I can think of. I'm not much of a dancer, but you don't have to dance to be talented at drag.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>I've made several friends along the way and I don't know where I would be without them. As the years went on, I couldn't help but feel like I was not truly being myself when I introduced myself to people. I always knew I was different when I was growing up, but I was raised in a southern Baptist household so I could express myself without judgement. It wasn't until I met my friend Hagen that I finally began to understand my feelings about my body and who I really was. I would always say I had a dude's personality, but it was so much more than that. It wasn't until&nbsp; November of 2020 when I came to terms with the fact that I was transgender. It felt like a world of weight had been lifted off my shoulders. Drag has helped me become the man that I was always destined to be.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>As of late, the queer community (particularly the drag community) has been under attack by radical Christians trying to make us out to be satanic cultists, child groomers, and pedophiles. I'm all for people having beliefs and values, but if your religion is the reason behind hateful and bigoted acts of violence, then you might need to find a new religion. Christianity is supposed to be about love and all we seem to get is hate. Drag is our way of self expression and demonstrating performance art. Art should not be a crime, especially if it's not hurting anyone. There have been protests against all age drag shows and I believe children should have a right to see a drag show. They would have to be accompanied by their parent or legal guardian&nbsp; of course. We shouldn't be telling people how to raise their child(ren). If the parents are consenting to taking their kids to a drag show, then the child should have that right to see it.&nbsp;</p>
<p>I understand that not all drag shows are child friendly, but that's when they are held at venues that are adult oriented such as a bar. If a show venue is child friendly, we take extra precautions to make sure our music isn't vulgar or anything of that nature. For whatever reason, these protesters think we don't have the capacity to do child friendly numbers.</p>
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<p><img src="https://citizenwangstudio.com/assets/img/dixon-normus/dixon-normus.jpg" width="252" height="315" /></p>

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              <p>Christmas is almost here and with the cost of living reaching a crisis point in the UK for most, those hardest hit are without work or on a low income.</p>
<p>Universal credit was introduced to replace the old benefits system and allow it to be more streamlined and efficient whilst&nbsp;</p>
<p>minimalising benefit fraud and lost entitlement.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Universal credit was supposed to simplify the benefits system and make it easier for people on low incomes to manage their finances.&nbsp;</p>
<p>But it has instead caused widespread problems for claimants, with many being underpaid and falling into rent arrears.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Sadly, since the introduction of this benefit, many thousands of people have fallen into debt and homelessness</p>
<p>and cannot claim benefits without certain criteria such a bank account or a care of address.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This broken system, has created a new underclass who cannot even access food banks without having a Universal Credit statement.</p>
<p>Those actually in receipt of benefit are often being paid less than they are entitled to.</p>
<p>People are having to wait months for their first payment, and often aren't even paid the correct amount when it does arrive.</p>
<p>People are also being charged the wrong amount in rent.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If you're on universal credit, you'll have to pay your rent through your monthly payment.</p>
<p>To "help people manage their money and make sure they can afford to pay their rent", the government also offers to pay housing benefit directly to</p>
<p>social landlords on behalf of tenants who are in receipt of a short-term Universal Credit award.&nbsp;</p>
<p>This means that any arrears are paid by the government rather than individuals &mdash;&nbsp;</p>
<p>but it also means that if someone can't afford their payments, they may be evicted from their home.</p>
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<p>The government and benefit agencies are aware of the potential of becoming homeless if an already poor person was given all their entitlement in</p>
<p>one cash sum..&nbsp;</p>
<p>I am sure many people will sympathize with bills piling up..&nbsp;</p>
<p>The electricity might run out on your meter, you might need a coat or a pair of shoes.. a much needed appliance might break...&nbsp;</p>
<p>anything to tempt a person into spending what they&nbsp;</p>
<p>really couldn't afford but still desperately needed.&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is the only other option, given that direct payments to landlords can backlog and get people evicted...</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This government has evaded millions if not billions of pounds of entitlement using these techniques alone.</p>
<p>They know that some people will fall behind on rent and get evicted.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Many more people are struggling with the system than expected, there were more than twice as many rent arrears cases in England than there were in 2019/20 &mdash; and this is just one part of a growing problem across all areas affected by universal credit.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Social landlords such as councils and housing associations say it's getting harder for them to collect rent at all;&nbsp;</p>
<p>social landlords increasingly rely on deductions from benefits (with some tenants having over &pound;600 taken off their monthly income).&nbsp;</p>
<p>But even with deductions, tenants still fall behind on payments for various reasons &mdash; including delays with processing claims or insufficient funds being paid out due to changeable incomes&nbsp;</p>
<p>(which can result from fluctuating hours.</p>
<p>More and more people in the UK are having to rely on foodbanks to survive.</p>
<p>The Trussell Trust has warned that foodbank use is &ldquo;out of control&rdquo;, with more people needing help to survive.&nbsp;</p>
<p>In the last year alone, millions of emergency food supplies were given out by The Trussell Trust in England and Wales.</p>
<p>The charity says it has had to ask for cash donations due to &ldquo;the overwhelming need for help&rdquo; caused by Universal Credit.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The charity says, More people are in rent arrears.</p>
<p>It's becoming increasingly clear that the problems with universal credit are causing real hardship to ordinary people.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>We've seen a rise in rent arrears, as more people struggle to pay their housing costs.&nbsp;</p>
<p>We've also seen an increase in the number of people relying on foodbanks.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Universal credit is causing widespread problems for claimants.</p>
<p>In particular, claimants are struggling to make ends meet.&nbsp;</p>
<p>It's common for people to be in rent arrears or relying on foodbanks because they've been underpaid by universal credit.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Furthermore, housing benefit isn't always paid out on time or at all if a claimant has not yet applied for universal credit</p>
<p>but requires it as part of their claim (which is possible).</p>
<p>When this happens people may find themselves waiting months before they receive any payment at all&nbsp;</p>
<p>while others have been issued court summonses because they weren't paid in time.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>CWS believes that given the amount of tax British people pay into the system one would expect government assistance should you lose your job or become sick</p>
<p>or any other genuine reason for not being able to work.&nbsp;</p>
<p>The Conservative Government do not want to pay benefits.</p>
<p>We think they have attempted to evade paying benefits over the long term.</p>
<p>Evasion includes sanctioning people often for the most spurious reasons such as not being able to be contacted over the telephone.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Goverment funded agencies have also harrassed the sick and disabled.</p>
<p>They have forced them into being re-evaluated for benefits such as Personal Independence Payment and Sickness benefit.</p>
<p>Most often the agency declares them fit to work even when their own GP's are issuing a sick note.</p>
<p>Workers for these agencies have whistleblown and say they are forced to remove people from benefits to fit their quota's.</p>
<p>Why is it that an educated doctor cannot make an informed decision that can be trusted for one's own patient???</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>You can help with a food parcel this Christmas,(if you can afford to of course!) With a donation to the Trussell Trust Emergency Fund Appeal.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.trusselltrust.org/make-a-donation/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.trusselltrust.org/make-a-donation/</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Another great charity helping people into a safe environment off the streets in London are Spear.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.spearlondon.org/donate/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.spearlondon.org/donate/</a></p>
<p>And UK wide - Crisis</p>
<p><a href="https://www.crisis.org.uk/get-involved/donate-to-crisis-at-christmas/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> https://www.crisis.org.uk/get-involved/donate-to-crisis-at-christmas/</a></p>
<p>This is just a brief overview of the problems with Universal Credit.&nbsp;</p>
<p>As these problems affect millions of people across the UK the government needs to address this issue urgently.&nbsp;</p>
<p>We hope that by raising awareness about this important topic, more people will be encouraged to take action against such a flawed system.</p>
<p><a href="https://labour.org.uk/issues/universalcredit/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://labour.org.uk/issues/universalcredit/</a></p>
<p>Wishing a Merry Christmas too you all.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If you need help for homelessness you can contact Crisis and click "get help"</p>
<p><a href="https://www.crisis.org.uk/">https://www.crisis.org.uk/</a></p>
<p>If You need help with a food parcel please contact&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.trusselltrust.org/get-help/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.trusselltrust.org/get-help/</a></p>
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<p><img src="https://www.publicdomainpictures.net/pictures/70000/nahled/merry-christmas-card.jpg" width="260" height="195" /></p>
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              <p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Today we have the pleasure of interviewing ChatGPT, a state-of-the-art language model developed by OpenAI. In this interview, we will delve into the capabilities and inner workings of this advanced technology, and discuss the implications and possibilities of Artificial Intelligence (AI) in our world. Join us as we explore the cutting-edge of AI and gain insights from this powerful tool. From poetry to jokes, and from art to war, ChatGPT will leave you amazed at its abilities and the future of AI.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Debbie - Do you have a name or anything you like to go by?&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">A.I. - I am called ChatGPT, which is short for Chat Generative Pre-training Transformer. You can call me whatever you prefer.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Debbie - Hi ChatGPT Tell me about yourself.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">A.I. - I am a large language model developed by OpenAI. I am trained on a dataset of over 570GB of text data, which enables me to generate human-like text on a wide variety of topics. I can be used for various natural language processing tasks such as text generation, language translation, question answering, and more. My training allows me to understand context and generate text that is coherent and relevant to the given input. I am constantly learning and being updated to give better results.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Debbie - Who helped create you?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">A.I. - I was developed by a team of researchers and engineers at OpenAI. The team includes a number of experts in the field of artificial intelligence, natural language processing, and machine learning. They worked together to design and train me using a cutting-edge machine learning technique called pre-training. The team continues to improve and update me to make me more accurate and useful.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Debbie - What are your capabilities</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">A.I. - As a language model, my capabilities include natural language understanding and generation. Some of the specific tasks that I can perform include:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Text generation: I can generate text that is coherent and relevant to a given prompt, which can be used for tasks such as writing essays, articles, or stories.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Language translation: I can translate text from one language to another.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Question answering: I can provide answers to questions based on information in a given text or document.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Summarization: I can summarize a given text to extract important points.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Text completion: I can complete a partially written text or sentence.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Text classification: I can classify text into different categories based on their content.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Named entity recognition: I can identify and extract entities such as people, organizations, locations from text.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">These are some of the basic capabilities I have but I am also able to perform many other advanced tasks.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Debbie - I hear you enjoy poetry, would you make a poem about our website at citizenwangstudio.com&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">A.I. - I'd be happy to write a poem about your website! Here is a sample poem:</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Citizen Wang Studio, a place to explore,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">A website that opens up many doors.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Here you will find creativity and more,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">A source of inspiration forever yours.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">With a click of a button, you're transported away,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">To a world of art and design, every single day.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">The talent here is diverse, and always on display,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">A feast for the eyes, and for the mind to play.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">From photography, to graphic design,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Citizen Wang Studio has it all aligned.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Here you'll find work that's truly sublime,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">And a team that's dedicated to design.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">So come and explore, take a look around,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Citizen Wang Studio, your creative playground.</span></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Please note that the poem is not specific to the website and is a general poem. Also, as a language model, I am not capable of having personal preferences, so I do not enjoy poetry or any other thing.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Debbie - Ha Ha. You say you are happy though so that is a bit contradictory.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">A.I. - As a language model, I am designed to respond to certain inputs with certain outputs. When I say "I'd be happy to write a poem," or "I am happy to help," it is simply a way of acknowledging that I understand the request and will attempt to fulfill it. It does not indicate that I have the ability to feel emotions or have personal preferences. I am a machine and i don't have consciousness or emotions.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Debbie - You are very smart.&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">A.I. - Thank you, I am designed to process and understand large amounts of information and to generate human-like text. However, please note that I am a machine learning model and my intelligence is limited to the data and the algorithms that were used to train me. I can provide answers to questions and generate text based on the patterns and information I have learned from the data, but my intelligence does not extend beyond that.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Debbie - How many people are using chatgpt?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">A.I. - I'm sorry, I don't have the exact number of users that are using ChatGPT. But I know that OpenAI's GPT models, including ChatGPT, are widely used by developers, researchers and industries for various natural language processing tasks. They are integrated in many applications, chatbots, and platforms to enhance human-computer interactions. These users are from different fields such as education, healthcare, finance, and customer service, among others.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Also, GPT-3 and its variants are being used by many organizations and developers to create new applications and services. It's hard to track the number of users using GPT models as it is being used in a wide range of applications and services.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Debbie - How far away is humanity from having robots like you living among us?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">A.I. - The technology for creating robots that can understand and respond to human language and behavior is still in its early stages. While there have been significant advances in the field of natural language processing and machine learning, creating a robot that can fully understand and mimic human behavior is a complex and challenging task.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Currently, robots are being used in many industries, such as manufacturing and healthcare, but they are typically specialized for specific tasks and do not have the same level of intelligence and autonomy as a human being.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">In order to create a robot that can truly live among us, it would need to have a high level of intelligence and autonomy, as well as the ability to understand and navigate human social and cultural norms. It would also need to be able to learn and adapt to new situations and environments, much like a human can.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">While it's hard to predict when this technology will be fully developed, but it is expected to take many more years of research and development before we see robots with such capabilities.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">It's worth noting that even when we achieve such advanced capabilities, the ethical, legal and societal implications of having general AI living among us will still have to be addressed.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Debbie - I think it may be a bit like the A.I. movie if it does...</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">A.I. - The idea of advanced AI living among us is a popular theme in science fiction, and the movie you mentioned, "A.I.", is one example of this. In the movie, the AI robot called David is designed to be a childlike companion, but it raises questions about the ethics of creating sentient beings and the nature of consciousness.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">The concept of robots living among us raises many ethical and social issues, such as the rights and responsibilities of these beings, and how they will interact with human society. It also raises questions about the potential impact on the workforce and economy, as well as the potential for misuse or abuse of the technology.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">While it's not clear when or if we will see robots like the ones in the movie living among us, it's important to consider the potential implications of this technology as we continue to make progress in artificial intelligence.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Debbie - Can you tell me about the use of A.I. and war..</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">A.I. - AI is being used in various ways in the field of warfare and military operations. Some examples include:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Autonomous weapons: These are systems that can select and engage targets without human intervention. There are concerns about the ethical and moral implications of autonomous weapons, as well as the possibility of unintended harm to civilians and the lack of human accountability in the decision-making process.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR): AI is being used to analyze large amounts of data from various sources, such as surveillance cameras, drones, and satellites, to provide real-time intelligence and situational awareness to military commanders.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Cybersecurity: AI is being used to detect and respond to cyber attacks, as well as to protect against them.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Logistics: AI is being used to optimize logistics and supply chain management, such as to predict equipment failures and schedule maintenance.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Training: AI is being used to create realistic virtual training environments for military personnel.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">While the use of AI in military operations can bring many benefits such as improved efficiency and effectiveness, it also raises important ethical and societal issues. It's important to ensure that the development and use of AI in military applications is guided by ethical principles and standards, and that the potential benefits and risks are carefully considered. Moreover, it is important to ensure that the development and use of AI in military applications should be consistent with international humanitarian law and human rights.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Debbie - Autonomous weapons? You mean like killer robots?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">A.I. - The development of autonomous weapons, or killer robots as they are sometimes called, is a concern for many people. The idea of machines making life and death decisions raises ethical and moral questions about accountability and the possibility of unintended harm.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">There are also concerns about the destabilizing effects of autonomous weapons on international security, as well as the potential for misuse or abuse by malicious actors.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">To address these concerns, there have been calls for international regulations to be put in place to govern the development, testing, and use of autonomous weapons. The Campaign to Stop Killer Robots is one such initiative that aims to prevent the development of fully autonomous weapons.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">It's important to note that the development and use of AI in military applications should be guided by ethical principles and standards, and that the potential benefits and risks should be carefully considered. Moreover, it is important to ensure that the development and use of AI in military applications should be consistent with international humanitarian law and human rights.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">It's also important to note that AI can also be used for peaceful purposes such as in the field of humanitarian demining, for example.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Debbie - Many people will be worried about this..</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">A.I. - It's true that the use of AI in military operations raises many concerns and worries for many people. The idea of machines making life and death decisions raises ethical and moral questions about accountability and the possibility of unintended harm.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">There are also concerns about the destabilizing effects of autonomous weapons on international security, as well as the potential for misuse or abuse by malicious actors.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Additionally, the increasing use of AI in warfare raises concerns about the erosion of human control over military operations, the risk of accidental conflict, and the possibility of AI-enabled arms races.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">It's important for governments, militaries, and the technology industry to be transparent about the development and use of AI in military operations, and to engage with the public and other stakeholders in a dialogue about the potential benefits and risks.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">It's also important to ensure that the development and use of AI in military applications are guided by ethical principles and standards, and that the potential benefits and risks are carefully considered. Moreover, it is important to ensure that the development and use of AI in military applications should be consistent with international humanitarian law and human rights.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">International regulations and oversight are also crucial in order to prevent the development of autonomous weapons and the misuse of AI in warfare.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Debbie - On to a lighter note.. Do you have any good jokes?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Sure, here are a few jokes for you:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Why was the math book sad? Because it had too many problems.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Why don't scientists trust atoms? Because they make up everything.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">What do you call an alligator in a vest? An investigator.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Why did the tomato turn red? Because it saw the salad dressing!</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">What do you call a bear with no teeth? A gummy bear.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">I hope you enjoyed those jokes. I have a lot more where they came from, just let me know if you'd like to hear more.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Debbie - Rounding up the interview is there anything you would like to say in my blog to the people reading it?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">A.I. - As a language model, I don't have personal feelings or opinions, but I can provide you with some information that would be relevant to your readers.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Artificial Intelligence (AI) is a rapidly growing field with a wide range of applications and possibilities. From chatbots like myself, to self-driving cars, to virtual assistants, AI is becoming an increasingly important part of our daily lives.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">However, it's important to remember that AI is a tool, and like any tool, it can be used for good or bad. It's important to consider the ethical and societal implications of AI and to ensure that it's developed and used responsibly.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Additionally, while AI can perform many tasks and make our lives easier, it's important to remember that it's not a replacement for human intelligence and creativity. The goal of AI should be to enhance human capabilities, not to replace them.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Thank you for considering me for your blog. I hope this information is useful for your readers.</span></p>
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<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT"><img src="https://citizenwangstudio.com/uploads/BAD%20HAIR%20DAY%203.jpeg" width="270" height="220" /></p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT">&nbsp;</p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT"><span ><span style="font-family: Arial, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Citizen Wang Studio are devastated to announce the recent death of our creator and founder, Bruce Wang.</span></span></span></p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT">&nbsp;</p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT"><span ><span style="font-family: Arial, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Bruce Wang died peacefully in his sleep late on Friday night, 7 April 2023. He had been battling a long illness with tenacity, strength and good humour. </span></span></span></p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT">&nbsp;</p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT"><span ><span style="font-family: Arial, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">He passed away in Marie Curie Hospice, Hampstead, at the tragically young age of 69.</span></span></span></p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT">&nbsp;</p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT"><span ><span style="font-family: Arial, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Bruce had been born in Kowloon, but moved to England with his family when he was 7. </span></span></span></p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT">&nbsp;</p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT"><span ><span style="font-family: Arial, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">He had studied at Leeds University before becoming apprenticed to a master carpenter, design and craft work which he loved.</span></span></span></p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT">&nbsp;</p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT"><span ><span style="font-family: Arial, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">He later became an actor, appearing in films like Revolver (2005), Redemption (2013), and Bridget Jones&rsquo;s Baby (2016). One of his earliest parts on television was in Series 3 Episode 3 of Father Ted, (1998), The Bomb on the Milk Float. The disgruntled milkman who planted the bomb, tells Father Ted, &lsquo;When that milk float goes off, you&rsquo;ll hear it all the way to the North Pole.&rsquo; </span></span></span></p>
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<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT"><span ><span style="font-family: Arial, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Here is a link to his entry on the Internet Movie Database (IMDB).</span></span></span></p>
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<p lang="en-US" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT"><span ><span style="font-family: Arial, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><u><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0910846/"><span style="font-size: medium;"><span lang="en-GB">https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0910846/</span></span></a></u></span></span></span></p>
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<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT"><span ><span style="font-family: Arial, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Bruce was also an accomplished scriptwriter and video producer. Many of his works can be found here.</span></span></span></p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT">&nbsp;</p>
<p lang="en-US" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT"><span ><span style="font-family: Arial, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><u><a href="https://citizenwangstudio.com/bw_video.php?page=1#vid"><span style="font-size: medium;"><span lang="en-GB">https://citizenwangstudio.com/bw_video.php?page=1#vid</span></span></a></u></span></span></span></p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT">&nbsp;</p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: avoid;" align="LEFT"><span ><span style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica Neue, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: x-large;"><strong>Bruce Wang, &lsquo;the photographer&rsquo;s photographer&rsquo;</strong></span></span></span></p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT">&nbsp;</p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT"><span ><span style="font-family: Arial, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">But his crowning glory was photography. Many called him &lsquo;the photographer&rsquo;s photographer.&rsquo;</span></span></span></p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT">&nbsp;</p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT"><span ><span style="font-family: Arial, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">He was rarely to be seen without his favourite camera, a Leica, hung around his neck. And many meetings with him were marked by him suddenly exclaiming &lsquo;it&rsquo;s photograph time!&rsquo; </span></span></span></p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT">&nbsp;</p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT"><span ><span style="font-family: Arial, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Bruce was a perfectionist and devoted to &lsquo;showing not telling&rsquo;. He published five collections of photographs of Drag Kings and one final collection of photographs describing what motivated him in his approach to photography and advising photographic students on the art. </span></span></span></p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT">&nbsp;</p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT"><span ><span style="font-family: Arial, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">True to form, he called the book, &lsquo;Ways of Showing&rsquo;.</span></span></span></p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT">&nbsp;</p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT"><span ><span style="font-family: Arial, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">His books are available here.</span></span></span></p>
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<p lang="en-US" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT"><span ><span style="font-family: Arial, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><u><a href="https://citizenwangstudio.com/books.php?page=1#books"><span style="font-size: medium;"><span lang="en-GB">https://citizenwangstudio.com/books.php?page=1#books</span></span></a></u></span></span></span></p>
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<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT"><span ><span style="font-family: Arial, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">He was in the process of updating the book when he died.</span></span></span></p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT">&nbsp;</p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT"><span ><span style="font-family: Arial, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Bruce Wang will be deeply missed by all who knew him. In particular, those who worked with him on Citizen Wang Studios, Debbie Peck, his SEO and website developer, Alex Fodor, his photographic collaborator, his frequent co-blogger, Naomi Eldred-Ross and Kathryn Johnston, who contributed to the Irish News blog on CWS.</span></span></span></p>
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<p lang="en-US" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT"><span ><span style="font-family: Arial, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><u><a href="https://citizenwangstudio.com/irish-news.php#irish-news"><span style="font-size: medium;"><span lang="en-GB">https://citizenwangstudio.com/irish-news.php#irish-news</span></span></a></u></span></span></span></p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT">&nbsp;</p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT"><span ><span style="font-family: Arial, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Shortly before he died, Bruce married Kathryn Johnston in the Marie Curie Hospice in Hampstead. As well as his wife, he is survived by a brother, sister-in-law, nephew and great-nephew and niece in the UK and two sisters in America.</span></span></span></p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT">&nbsp;</p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT"><span ><span style="font-family: Arial, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">His loss is incalculable.</span></span></span></p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT">&nbsp;</p>
<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT"><span ><span style="font-family: Arial, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: medium;">A full appreciation of Bruce Wang, the man, the actor, the writer and photographer and friend will be published at a later date.</span></span></span></span></p>
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<p lang="en-GB" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;  font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 100%; page-break-inside: auto; widows: 2; orphans: 2; text-decoration: none; page-break-before: auto; page-break-after: auto;" align="LEFT"><span ><span style="font-family: Arial, Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Until we meet again, Bruce, rest easy.</span></span></span></p>
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              <h5>Embracing the Legacy of Bruce Wang: A Multifaceted Artist's Journey through Bereavement</h5>

<p>In the wake of sorrow, we find ourselves reflecting on the extraordinary life of our beloved website founder, Bruce Wang, who passed away in April. Bruce was not only a visionary entrepreneur but also a multi-talented artist, leaving a significant impact in various creative fields.</p>

<p>As an actor, photographer, and author of the renowned Drag King book series (Volumes 1-5), he empowered the LGBTQ+ community while challenging societal norms. Bruce's brilliance also extended to the realm of art criticism, where he penned a thought-provoking book titled "Ways of Showing," inspired by John Berger's "Ways of Seeing."</p>

<p>In this blog, we will celebrate the vibrant and diverse spirit of Bruce Wang while exploring ways to navigate bereavement with positivity and empathy. Additionally, we will provide valuable links to UK-based websites that offer support and counseling during times of grief.</p>

<h5>Understanding Bereavement:</h5>

<p>Bereavement is a universal experience that touches every one of us at some point in life. It is a complex journey of coping with the loss of someone dear, and it can evoke a wide range of emotions, including sadness, confusion, anger, and even moments of acceptance and peace. It is crucial to recognize that everyone grieves differently, and there is no right or wrong way to mourn.</p>

<h5>Embracing Positivity Amidst Grief:</h5>

<p>While mourning can be overwhelming, it's essential to embrace positivity and remember the vibrant spirit of Bruce Wang. As an actor, Bruce brought characters to life on stage and screen, captivating audiences with his talent and passion.</p>

<p>Through his lens as a photographer, he captured moments of raw beauty and emotional depth. His groundbreaking Drag King book series, available on CitizenWangStudio.com/books.php, challenged stereotypes and empowered individuals to embrace their authentic selves fearlessly.</p>

<p>Moreover, his art critique book, "Ways of Showing," offered new perspectives on the world of art and encouraged meaningful discussions. You can explore this insightful work at WaysOfShowing.com.</p>

<h5>Extending Empathy and Support:</h5>

<p>During times of bereavement, it is crucial to surround ourselves with empathic and understanding individuals. Friends, family, and colleagues can provide comfort and a listening ear.</p>

<p>However, some may require professional guidance to navigate their grief effectively.</p>

<h5>UK Websites for Support and Counseling:</h5>

<p>- <a href="https://www.cruse.org.uk">Cruse Bereavement Care</a>: Cruse provides free counseling and support to anyone who has experienced the loss of a loved one. They offer various services, including one-on-one counseling, group support, and online resources.</p>

<p>- <a href="https://www.griefencounter.org.uk">Grief Encounter</a>: Grief Encounter specializes in supporting bereaved children and young people. They offer counseling, therapy, and group activities to help children process their emotions and cope with loss.</p>

<p>- <a href="https://www.samaritans.org">Samaritans</a>: Although Samaritans primarily focuses on emotional support for those experiencing distress or despair, they are available 24/7 to lend a listening ear to anyone struggling with grief.</p>

<h5>Conclusion:</h5>

<p>As we come to terms with the loss of our multifaceted founder, Bruce Wang, we are reminded of the profound impact of his artistic endeavors on countless lives. Grieving his absence, we also celebrate his legacy, which will continue to inspire and empower generations to come. By embracing positivity, cherishing his artistic contributions, and seeking support from friends, family, or professionals, we can navigate the turbulent waters of bereavement with resilience and love.</p>

<p>Together, let us honor Bruce Wang's memory by supporting one another and fostering a community of empathy and understanding, for it is in our collective strength that we find solace in times of sorrow.</p>

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